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Guess not... what the hell is wrong with you people? Obumbler lied for 8 years and you ate every lie he fed you. Someone tells you the way it is and you curl up in a ball of denial.
Sweden's crime rates are typically low compared with other nations and - contrary to Trump's belief - there hasn't been a refugee-driven crime wave in recent years.
In fact, the latest figures show that the rate of crimes against life and health have actually decreased in recent years.
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Sweden's population of just under 10 million is small compared to the number of people it has accepted - consequently it has one of the highest rates of immigration in Europe.
Integrating this level of migrants into the general population is an ongoing issue in Sweden, with a recent YouGov poll showing that Swedes think the most pressing issue currently facing their country is immigration and refugee policy.
Generally, there’s a certain over-representation of people with immigrant background in crime statistics, but that tends to be closely related to high levels of unemployment, poverty, exclusion, low language and other skills, Selin said. "Swedes with these characteristics are also overrepresented in crime statistics," he said.
If we look specifically at sex offences, which the Fox News segment highlighted, there were 18,100 sex offenses reported to the police in 2015, down 11 percent from 2014, according to the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention.
The number of rapes reported decreased 12 percent between 2014 and 2015, to 5,920, the agency reported. The council noted that in Sweden, when a single case is reported, every incident associated with the case is also reported as an offense during the same year.
The amount of reported rape offenses has gone up in the last 10 years (2006-15), which the agency said can be partially attributed to new legislation in 2005 that augmented the types of acts that can be classified as rape.
No no no! The thread title is "Trump makes up another terrorist attack."
Now you can go off-topic all you want, but talk to the flesh becoz the breath ain't fresh
What I said is perfectly within the confines of the thread title and the discussion topics that have ensued. Have you read through the thread and followed it?
I don't think he necesarilly lied or made something up, per se - but I do think it's obvious that he saw something in passing on Fox News (probably while he was doing something else...we know he has it on in the background often), and ran with it.
Either way, he said what he said - and that was the point of my post. Any reasonable English speker listening to his speech would think that he was referencing an event on Friday night, which would lead one to think "what happened in Sweden last night?"
How is that not obvious? Please explain your argument (that this is off topic) because it doesn't make any sense.
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Strawman.
It's not a strawman. PedroMartinez is reaching with the argument that a reasonable interpretation of Trump's words was a reference to a Fox News report about Sweden.
That is not a reasonable interpretation.
Maybe some people did see that report and knew what he meant (even though he didn't say anything about a report in his speech...so you would have to make some logical leaps there), but that is not a reasonable or simple interpretation if you take Trump at his word.
You disagree with this?
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No, Trump was not right about an incident happening the previous night in Sweden from when he spoke.
But there was Rioting and destruction of public and private property?
No matter what the left says this is a dangerous world and it is our right to vet all folks coming to America.
America is not for all and we will not slid in the 5th century because other countries have not progressed.
But there was Rioting and destruction of public and private property?
No matter what the left says this is a dangerous world and it is our right to vet all folks coming to America.
America is not for all and we will not slid in the 5th century because other countries have not progressed.
It is your right to vet, and a sensible thing to do, but you already do that so what's the problem?
It is your right to vet, and a sensible thing to do, but you already do that so what's the problem?
There is a problem in that some countries don't have the records, the data bases, to be able to vet anyone securely. If there are no records, how do you know whom you are vetting?
It will take some time to develop the proper process and procedure for reliable vetting.
It is your right to vet, and a sensible thing to do, but you already do that so what's the problem?
Here's a problem.....Is one of the Vetting questions: "Do you have a job lined up?"
If not, include it.
& if they don't have a job lined up, then don't let them in. We as a country are way to far under water (economically) and have way to much on our plate to bring another non-productive person into this country.
No job lined up?? Then go to the back of the line. Come see us in a year or two after we've balanced the budget, lowered health care costs, have the vetting process finalized....& oh, and you better have a job lined up. Otherwise, No Soup for You......Next !
There is a problem in that some countries don't have the records, the data bases, to be able to vet anyone securely. If there are no records, how do you know whom you are vetting? It will take some time to develop the proper process and procedure for reliable vetting.
If there are no records of a person they are not going to pass vetting.
This video is pretty good, it outlines the steps a Syrian refugee has to go through to immigrate to the US, what they don't discuss is that this entire process takes 18-36 months. https://qz.com/907937/refugees-from-...d-into-the-us/
Here's a problem.....Is one of the Vetting questions: "Do you have a job lined up?"
If not, include it.
& if they don't have a job lined up, then don't let them in. We as a country are way to far under water (economically) and have way to much on our plate to bring another non-productive person into this country.
No job lined up?? Then go to the back of the line. Come see us in a year or two after we've balanced the budget, lowered health care costs, have the vetting process finalized....and after you have a job lined up. Otherwise, No Soup for You......Next !
How would a refugee line up a job in the US? They aren't allowed in the US unless a relief agency agrees to sponsor them, the relief agencies assist them in finding jobs and housing.
If there are no records of a person they are not going to pass vetting.
This video is pretty good, it outlines the steps a Syrian refugee has to go through to immigrate to the US, what they don't discuss is that this entire process takes 18-36 months. https://qz.com/907937/refugees-from-...d-into-the-us/
And many of our agencies, Homeland Security and Intelligence included, have said that terrorists "will be able to get through" with the refugees.
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