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Old 02-20-2017, 11:56 PM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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He's as far from perfect as any human being could ever be.

That's the definition I was trying to find! And isn't it a huge joke, when a Trump supporter tells us not to watch Fox News? Has even that bastion of fabrication failed to tweak Trump supporters' needs? The ship is leaking in dozens of places, is heeled-over and poised for the big plunge and a Trumpist thinks things are getting better for him. I think he's the best example for us all, of what to avoid in our lives. Is it possible we will be able to have pity for him, afterwards? If so, that will be a very big test of our capacity to show mercy for our fellow humans.
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Old 02-20-2017, 11:57 PM
 
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Makes me wonder how many more protests the radicalized liberal left anarchists kicking windows in....are itching to start up.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:27 AM
 
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Why listen to poll. Just look at the stock market, follow the money and you know how people think.

Stock market raised under Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama because fed pumped massive amount of cheap money into the market. The end result is the US now have 20 trillion in debt, which Trump inherited. The fed of course being political and going to raise rate under Trump but the market still going up. Why the market so bullish IF Trump is so hated and there will be not cheap money?

The answer is simple, business people love Trump and his actions.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:41 AM
 
Location: Eugene, Oregon
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Why listen to poll. Just look at the stock market, follow the money and you know how people think.

Stock market raised under Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama because fed pumped massive amount of cheap money into the market. The end result is the US now have 20 trillion in debt, which Trump inherited. The fed of course being political and going to raise rate under Trump but the market still going up. Why the market so bullish IF Trump is so hated and there will be not cheap money?

The answer is simple, business people love Trump and his actions.
The answer is even simpler than that. The business people know he will not be in office much longer. It doesn't matter what their political affiliations are, their money always comes first.
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:45 AM
 
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Why listen to poll. Just look at the stock market, follow the money and you know how people think.

Stock market raised under Clinton, Bush 2 and Obama because fed pumped massive amount of cheap money into the market. The end result is the US now have 20 trillion in debt, which Trump inherited. The fed of course being political and going to raise rate under Trump but the market still going up. Why the market so bullish IF Trump is so hated and there will be not cheap money?

The answer is simple, business people love Trump and his actions.
Clinton left a surplus
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Old 02-21-2017, 12:50 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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Trump and Clinton were the most-disliked candidates in modern American History. Prior to the election, I think Trump was disliked by more than 60% of the public.

Trump, Clinton: The most disliked U.S. presidential candidates ever? | NOLA.com

There is no evidence that more people dislike Trump than they did before the election. Nor is there any evidence that the supporters of Donald Trump are abandoning him.


With that said, I do agree that the majority of Americans do not support Donald Trump. But a majority of Americans didn't support Hillary Clinton either. And a large portion of those currently opposed to Donald Trump, either voted for the libertarian party, the green party, or didn't vote at all(not including those who merely voted for the lesser of two evils).



All that is happening, is that those who didn't support Donald Trump, have strengthened in their opposition to him. And those who support Donald Trump, have strengthened in their support for him.


The country continues to be pulled in different directions. And this will likely continue as long as the media continues its crusade against Trump. Which had led to often-violent protests across the country.
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:11 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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The answer is even simpler than that. The business people know he will not be in office much longer. It doesn't matter what their political affiliations are, their money always comes first.
This is the dumbest thing I've seen in a long time.


Trump promised what amounts to a massive stimulus of the economy, partly through a massive infrastructure and investment project.

I was reading how Elon Musk plans to invest in tunnel-digging machines, in the belief that a lot of that Trump infrastructure money, might be spent on the expansion of public-transit, especially subways, to alleviate massive traffic in places like Los Angeles.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/featu...-really-boring


Since you're a liberal, and hate Trump. Let me explain it like this.


The reason big-business supported Hitler, was because Hitler declared an intent for massive government spending, partly through infrastructure development, with the most-notable project being the German "Autobahn".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autobahn


To finance these massive government projects, the government sold bonds, to bankers, and other investors. And the German government was one of the first to implement what amounts to a "Keynesian" economic model, through a fiat currency(the United States would more-or-less drop the gold-standard around the same time, when FDR confiscated all of America's gold).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Order_6102


Trump is basically a progressive. He would have a lot in common with someone like Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, or even FDR. He is not a conservative.
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Old 02-21-2017, 01:41 AM
 
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Yes the stock market knowing its about to have a ton of US debt created, and moved into them has gone up. Fun fact,t he stock market is not necessarily a perfect indicator of a economies health.
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Old 02-21-2017, 02:07 AM
 
Location: USA
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Trump's mainline theme was to "drain the swamp", those with a vested interest in the status quo of megalopolis, bankers, and politicians that have been paying themselves bonuses while our nation creeps to 20 Trillion dollars in debt.
If you think that's been happening at all, you have been completely conned.
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Old 02-21-2017, 05:31 AM
 
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Clinton left a surplus
Clinton left a dom-com bubble that burst in March 2000. It was over 5000, two years later the index was at 1500, a 70% decline. It look 15 years to recover.
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