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Old 02-20-2017, 03:45 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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I would love to study to their proposals...

California lawmakers introduce single-payer health care plan today

 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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This is great but it should have been done several years ago.
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Attention Illegals: Free healthcare in California! First come, first serve! Vamamos!
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:22 PM
 
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And not funded by federal money.

Otherwise knock your socks off.
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:24 PM
 
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I wish more states would just say **** it and do it themselves. And don't do it via referendum. People are easily corruptible to vote against their own interests. And don't drag your feet CA! That's what Vermont did and look where it got them

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And not funded by federal money.

Otherwise knock your socks off.
It should be funded with federal money if need be. Replace Medicaid funds with it
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:26 PM
 
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CA is going to dramatically raise taxes on its residents to pay for it too.

Lets see how that goes over. I say great... go for it CA, but don't whine and cry when everyone who makes the money leaves the state!
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:28 PM
 
Location: United States
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I would love to study to their proposals...

California lawmakers introduce single-payer health care plan today
No mention on Cali would pay for this.

Here was the relevant part of the article.

One big issue is that the state relies on about $22 billion in federal funding annually to cover private insurance subsidies linked to plans purchased through the state’s health insurance exchange. It also pays for a provision of the law that greatly expanded Medicaid — a health care program for the poor (called Medi-Cal in this state) that is paid for by states and the federal government — to include adults without dependent children. What would happen to those funds is unclear.


California can't even afford to pay for subsidized health insurance, they sure as heck can't afford to pay for all of the state's healthcare.

I bet this will happen right after California secedes. LoL

The OP is always good for a laugh.
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I would love to study to their proposals...
Nobody is dragging their feet.

Obamacare is extremely complex (over 11 million words) and took years to implement. It will take years to replace it.
 
Old 02-20-2017, 04:36 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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While Trump and Ryan drag their feet, California Legislators to deliberate statewide Universal Heath Care

And here's the reason (from another thread):

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2.) The other reason (for the "progressives" failure) concerned Obamacare and its various unconstitutional features. The leftists had designed it to fail, knowing full well that insurance companies could not provide policies that paid for pre-existing conditions, except by charging such high premiums that most people couldn't hope to afford them. And once enough insurance companies were forced to drop out, the left planned to put "single payer" (i.e. totally government-controlled health care) in its place once it failed. Obamacare was merely a step toward a complete govt takeover of our health care system.

But it was MANDATORY to have Democrats in position to shepherd the collapsing Obamacare and have a pure-govt health-system solution ready, to ease the country into a completely socialist system. Then they could spend the next 30-50 years saying, "Well, the health care system is run by these principles, maybe the banks should be too. And maybe private industries should be regulated this way too. And.... etc. etc."

Trump's election was not only a stunning shock to these people. It was also the major derailing of their plans for the next decade... and beyond.
I don't think any of us have a problem protecting those who are ill through no fault of their own; but our system is choking from too much dead weight; people who never planned ahead, lived unhealthy lifestyles, immigrated illegally, or overload our emergency rooms -- rather than playing by the same rules as the responsible majority.

We have always found a way to deal with the most innocent, immediate and desperate cases, and always will; but people who lived responsibly don't deserve to be forced into a long waiting line behind people who did not.

"Sure, you can keep your own doctor, and your premiums won't go up --- and the check is in the mail, and my wife doesn't understand me, and ....."


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Old 02-20-2017, 04:41 PM
 
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I would love to study to their proposals...

California lawmakers introduce single-payer health care plan today
Oh goodie, Montie is back, spewing his line of BS again..
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