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It's fun watching libs get their knickers all twisted up about this. They hate the state of Israel, despise Bibi, yet lecture everyone on anti-Semitism.
It's hard to take you people seriously. Especially bashing Trump for his supposed anti-Semitism. Your hatred for the president has caused libs to lose all common sense.
Once again, very simply, disagreeing with the actions of a nation IS NOT the same as hatred of the practitioners of a particular religion and has NOTHING to do with why a nation was founded.
You're ignoring the historical facts of WHY the Nation State of Israel was created. Why? Because you won't admit Obama (and many liberals/Dems) is an anti-Semite and promoted anti-Semitism in the US?
Answer the questions...
WHY would Obama side with anti-Semitic countries? HOW is a US President promoting anti-Semitism good for the US?
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Not all anti-Zionists are anti-Semites.
However the line is in many cases very thin. Many Arab countries make little distinction (e.g. the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion is required reading in many school programs). Also for those seeking a convenient cover for their anti-Semitic views where better to hide then amongst the so-called ‘progressive’ anti-Zionists.
I support both Israel and Palestine, but I don't believe Netanyahu has done anything wrong. Historically speaking, Jews were simply different from the majority of people and they had no country on their own. It was therefore easy to accuse them of treachery, disloyalty and blaming them for everything.
I don't either, I think he does what he believes best for Israel. But I also don't think it makes an American an anti-Semite if they don't believe falling in lock-step with Netanyahu isn't the best thing for America.
And I think it unrealistic for people who write a book proclaiming themselves 'God's chosen people' to expect to be treated no differently than anyone else when they themselves proclaim themselves to be different than anyone else.
It's fun watching libs get their knickers all twisted up about this. They hate the state of Israel, despise Bibi, yet lecture everyone on anti-Semitism.
It's hard to take you people seriously. Especially bashing Trump for his supposed anti-Semitism. Your hatred for the president has caused libs to lose all common sense.
Libs have backed themselves into a corner on this, and most people are wise to their lies.
I don't either, I think he does what he believes best for Israel. But I also don't think it makes an American an anti-Semite if they don't believing falling in lock-step with Netanyahu isn't the best thing for America.
And I think it unrealistic for people who write a book proclaiming themselves 'God's chosen people' to expect to be treated no differently than anyone else when they themselves proclaim themselves to be different than anyone else.
Trump was asked specifically whether he supported a two-state outcome – in which Palestinians would have a state of their own alongside Israel – or a one-state solution combining the two.
"I like the one that both parties like," Trump said. "I'm very happy with the one that both parties like. I could live with either one."
bold is really the best solution for everybody.
People seem to have reasons to dislike Trump. But anti-semitism? Come on. Trump is not anti-semitic, saying so seems baseless in my opinion.
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You're ignoring the historical facts of WHY the Nation State of Israel was created. Why? Because you won't admit Obama (and many liberals/Dems) is an anti-Semite and promoted anti-Semitism in the US?
Answer the questions...
WHY would Obama side with anti-Semitic countries? HOW is a US President promoting anti-Semitism good for the US?
To answer that question you'd first have to justify it by proving Obama did anything but what he believed best for the US. You apparently suffer the belief that 'what's best for Israel is best for the US' which I flatly reject.
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Trump was asked specifically whether he supported a two-state outcome – in which Palestinians would have a state of their own alongside Israel – or a one-state solution combining the two.
"I like the one that both parties like," Trump said. "I'm very happy with the one that both parties like. I could live with either one."
bold is really the best solution for everybody.
People seem to have reasons to dislike Trump. But anti-semitism? Come on. Trump is not anti-semitic, saying so seems baseless in my opinion.
I've never said Trump was an anti-Semite. I dislike him because I grew up in the NYC area and have watched him for 35+ years and came to the opinion he simply isn't a trustworthy man.
Once again, very simply, disagreeing with the actions of a nation IS NOT the same as hatred of the practitioners of a particular religion and has NOTHING to do with why a nation was founded. IF they're one and the same as you allege, WHY do 100% of Israeli Jews NOT support Netanyahu's actions?
Perhaps the difference in opinion is between sectarian and non-sectarian Jews, much like the difference in opinion between left and right here in this country.
Each group is bound to see it differently. Netanyahu's re-election is a stunning poll-defying feat and is notable. It was much like what happened here. The people spoke. They wanted change. Their primary concern is security, economy and strong leadership. Doesn't that reflect what we wanted too? Security, jobs, enforcement of the rule of law ( all of which are impossible without strong leadership). In fact, Obama told law enforcement in certain instances to "look the other way" and ignore the law; look at the resulting chaos.
"It was a stunning turnabout from the last pre-election polls...Mr. Netanyahu embarked on a last-minute scorched-earth campaign, promising that no Palestinian state would be established as long as he remained in office and insulting Arab citizens."
“I am proud of the Israeli people that, in the moment of truth, knew how to separate between what’s important or what’s not and to stand up for what’s important,” Zionist leader Herzog told an exuberant crowd at Likud’s election party at the Tel Aviv Fairgrounds. “For the most important thing for all of us, which is real security, social economy and strong leadership.”
Mr. Herzog called the election “an incredible achievement.” He said he had formed a negotiating team and still hoped to lead “a real social government in Israel” that “aspires to peace with our neighbors.”
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Libs have backed themselves into a corner on this, and most people are wise to their lies.
If so, and I don't believe it is, it's a comfortable corner of believing the POTUS owes allegiance to the interests of the US first and foremost. I know that's maybe uncomfortable for the 'Israel does no wrong' crowd but you'll get over it.
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