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Old 02-21-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Thank you for explaining to all these clueless people what's going on in their own country.
America is a finely-tuned machine, that is set to propel some, and to finish others off - yes it's set this way, and those that think otherwise are just that - clueless.
No one is clueless - but the poster is assuming a lot of things - that the recipients are rural, that they don't have a car ect.... I'm still trying to find out what the qualifications are for the program but have been unable to do so yet.

These suitable volunteer positions may not be at certain facilities but in certain areas - volunteering at a school, SPCA, Salvation Army, church ect...what I'm sure it was meant do dissuade was Joe Blow's uncle saying he volunteered at his place of business.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:12 AM
 
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So I'm liberal and i know lots of people like to assume that people like me think everyone should get something for nothing, but that's absolutely not true. I've never supported welfare. I believe in hands up, not hands out. So I agree with Maine that financial assistance is okay as long as they work for it.

I have a very conservative cousin who hated Obama and Clinton...and she's a stereotypical welfare queen. Always demanding her benefits and public assistance, yet hating the government that gives it to her. She also has a very unhealthy diet and doesn't exercise so is in poor health, hence her excuse for not being able to work. What she is doing is wrong. So please don't assume all people who vote a certain way have the same beliefs.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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So Maine's politicians are expecting these people to just sit in their homes and die? Interesting strategy.
Choices have consequences.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Massachusetts & Hilton Head, SC
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They must not have been offering a reasonable salary. For the right salary people will do the job.
They said it was. They are wealthy and they could afford to pay a good salary. I think they would have paid almost anything 'cause the husband has a heart condition.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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To be honest, in order "to do any better" people need to be born with certain mental capacities to begin with, in order to make "long term plans."
Not everyone has these capacities, so they will be simply exploited, because hunger IS a motivator indeed.
Just one more reason not to continue importing millions of third world people to compete with those less capable Americans for the lower level jobs. And certainly to stop importing refugees to parts of the country without the infrastructure or jobs to support them or provide them an environment they can prosper in with greater independence. It seems all too often refugees are sent to certain areas more to increase that area's diversity or punish an area for voting the wrong way than because the area would be a good fit for the refugees in question.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:26 AM
 
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I'm liberal and agree with work requirements for all except the disabled. That said - are there jobs in Maine? My brother and his in-laws live in Maine, and it doesn't seem like there is enough work to go around outside of tourism season. Much of the state makes the bulk of their income in the summer. In the winter, aside from some skiing areas, there is not much work to go around. How does that work with this scheme?
You need to understand the "right" leaning posters here don't want to discuss the topic they merely want to use it as cover to whine about the idea of somebody getting from the state.

They are complete hypocrites of course. The same people crying about the gov giving food stamp hand outs also are taking subsidies in various forms, but they don't view their subsidy as "taking" because they don't want to view it that way. Instead they like to define only the benefits they don't use as "bad"..
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:27 AM
 
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She is now working long hours and someone else is raising her kids. How is that a better system?
That is how it works for people who work.


Bums who don't stay home and live off welfare.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:30 AM
 
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No one is clueless - but the poster is assuming a lot of things - that the recipients are rural, that they don't have a car ect.... I'm still trying to find out what the qualifications are for the program but have been unable to do so yet.

These suitable volunteer positions may not be at certain facilities but in certain areas - volunteering at a school, SPCA, Salvation Army, church ect...what I'm sure it was meant do dissuade was Joe Blow's uncle saying he volunteered at his place of business.
Let's start from this point, we'll go from there)))
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Central Florida
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Seems like a pretty straightforward question. If you are too lazy to work 24 hours a month, are you really going to try to find a job when you're kicked off the benefits wagon, or are you going to look for the quickest and easiest ways to put money in your pocket?
So you are going to acquiesce to the threat of someone becoming a criminal and give them free handouts because they are lazy? No, no, that won't fly here. We are trying to get away from that type thinking. Try to steal from some and you will end up in jail or dead. Please don't be scared and give in to common criminals.
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Old 02-21-2017, 10:33 AM
 
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So I'm liberal and i know lots of people like to assume that people like me think everyone should get something for nothing, but that's absolutely not true. I've never supported welfare. I believe in hands up, not hands out. So I agree with Maine that financial assistance is okay as long as they work for it.

I have a very conservative cousin who hated Obama and Clinton...and she's a stereotypical welfare queen. Always demanding her benefits and public assistance, yet hating the government that gives it to her. She also has a very unhealthy diet and doesn't exercise so is in poor health, hence her excuse for not being able to work. What she is doing is wrong. So please don't assume all people who vote a certain way have the same beliefs.
It's not just your cousin. Most stereotypical welfare queens I know always vote Republican and have a great disdain for liberals. I think they overcompensate to balance out their life style
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