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The plan that I read covers them for 2 years, after that it doesn't.
Since when are costs going to go up over something that already exists? Pre existing is already covered in ACA.
Really? So Trump didn't cancel the fine for not having Healthcare? My gosh, Trump must have been fake news, and that executive order didn't happen!
Seriously, trump just put a bullet in the plane engine, and looked at the GOP and said "ok now let's see the plan"
You would need to increase the FICA Payroll Tax to 26% each for employer and employee to pay a Universal Basic income of $1,341 per month, and that still leaves people eligible for Food Stamps and HUD Section 8 Housing.
"Medicare-for-all" would require increasing the HI Payroll Tax from 1.45% to at least 12.8% per employer and employee, and then that would only fund 80% of current healthcare expenditures annually.
So enslaving healthcare workers is your answer?
Really? A single person can make $1,341 and get food stamps? Where? Most single people can't get food stamps.
Mircea, try a reality based argument. BTW a 26% fica tax would be a break even for the majority of folks. You know that right?
Mind you, we agree, now is not the time, it's too expensive. But it's inevitable eventually, so the discussion needs to occur.
Healthcare costs in this country are rising and will continue to do so long as the fee for service model remains dominate. Long story shore healthcare professionals and facilities simply get paid by how much "stuff" they do to patients. As such it is baked into the system to do as much possible to maximize payments.
You ask physicians or nurses who have recently been in hospital and not only got their an itemized bill (not easy task usually), but sat down and analyzed. Things are routinely up-diagnosed all the time and it isn't a coding/clerical error either.
Nurses are routinely got at to document (chart) every single thing they do to a patient so the facility can bill.
Sad thing is trying to dispute these inflated bills to Medicare or Medicaid. Often they just don't want to know or seem not to care.
In contrast you have the model used by Mayo Clinic and several other places that mimics what you see in Europe. Payment is by diagnoses and that is it regardless of how much is "done" to the patient.
Republicans are signing a political suicide pact if the high taxation aspects of Obamacare is allowed to fester and eat away at Americans income of ALL tiers of society.
Healthcare costs in this country are rising and will continue to do so long as the fee for service model remains dominate. Long story shore healthcare professionals and facilities simply get paid by how much "stuff" they do to patients. As such it is baked into the system to do as much possible to maximize payments.
You ask physicians or nurses who have recently been in hospital and not only got their an itemized bill (not easy task usually), but sat down and analyzed. Things are routinely up-diagnosed all the time and it isn't a coding/clerical error either.
Nurses are routinely got at to document (chart) every single thing they do to a patient so the facility can bill.
Sad thing is trying to dispute these inflated bills to Medicare or Medicaid. Often they just don't want to know or seem not to care.
In contrast you have the model used by Mayo Clinic and several other places that mimics what you see in Europe. Payment is by diagnoses and that is it regardless of how much is "done" to the patient.
None of this works without a mandate. Without getting healthy people to sign up, none of this works.
I didn't really like the idea of a mandate, either, but if you want to do this the right way, you need something that gets young and/or healthy people on board.
We're just going to go back to the way it was before ACA - maybe that was the plan all along?
A "mandate" is unconstitutional, and it always was. If we're going to be a Constitutional Republic, then we need to follow the Constitution.
Repeal Obamacare NOW, and go back to a private system. That's what's right.
A "mandate" is unconstitutional, and it always was. If we're going to be a Constitutional Republic, then we need to follow the Constitution.
Repeal Obamacare NOW, and go back to a private system. That's what's right.
Unfortunately for you, nononsenseguy doesn't get to decide what is Constitutional or not. That duty is delegated to the Judicial branch and they made their call.
Looks like some of the ACA insurance providers are weighing in on the expected changes to the ACA. And stating they are looking at 40% increases in costs. Basically it's back to covering the costs of all those who choose not to have insurance.
I think some of the GOP reps are going to freak out when they realize they are stuck. Trumps actions alone will doom the ACA, but they can't find a cheaper solution. Just worse ones.
I don't think they thought their plan all the way through.
But I'll will say this, it looks like they will leave a lot of it up to states.....and the blue states will have the money to do it right. The red states just don't have the population density, and high tech income. Interesting times.
Insurance companies were warning us about the death spiral and massive increases in rates long before Trump ever won the November election.
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