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Insurance is NOT voluntary in the case of property and auto (and as long as the ACA holds, health).
It is voluntary since owning property and owning an automobile are voluntary.
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By paying what the "market" wants and completely disregarding the cost of living...
Cost of living is dictated by my individual markets
Wages are dictated by a market
They are under no obligation to meet in the middle. Example: San Francisco, NYC, LA, etc...
If the two grows wider and wider, then people can starve can they not?
Or people can move to low cost areas to live and work.
If people are too stupid to relocate for better opportunities and living conditions, then how dumb are they?
Funny how Trump supporters like the idea of no minimum wage. Its a dream scenario for employers who will push their puppets in Congress to flood the country with people from the third world to work those $1 an hour jobs.
If you would be right, then employers would pay the minimum wage and only the minimum wage.
Obviously, that's not the case.
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Conservative ideology is about the individual.me myself and I, give nothing of yourself to others,its all mine and you cant have any.
You couldn't be more wrong.
Conservative ideology places family above self, then the self, then the community.
This is a serious question. Considering conservatives are against minimum wage, against redistribution of wealth, against the commons (i.e. publicly funded things like police, schools, fire, etc), against unions, against healthcare. Really, what are they 'for'? And don't use the old personal responsibility line, because that isn't the question.
Conservatives want people to take care of themselves.
Not have other people take care of them. We are not against health care, just against making us pay for someone else.
Personal responsibility.
To me that's it in a nutshell. I can take care of me but not thee. Take care of yourself and your own.
Supply and demand, coupled with education being a labor intensive field. No new major universities have been built in the last 40+ years (Everest College and ITT don't count), so you have a static supply with a growing demand of students. What would help is if more state schools were built.
What would help is higher admissions standards to weed out the vast number of students who have no aptitude for university.
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You can't price it based on risk, because that leaves people with genetic conditions or cancer S.O.L.
It won't kill them to pay 20% to 50% more for health plan coverage.
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And we could have a nationalized system.
Not like Britain, Sweden Spain or Portugal you can't. You can have a system like Germany, except it would fail, so you'd have to model your system after France or the Netherlands or Denmark.
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We would have had one of FDR hadn't died in his Fourth Term.
We're all lucky the dictator died.
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Would prob require a constitutional amendment.
That would only be required for a system like Britain, Sweden Spain or Portugal
Apparently, you don't understand the differences between the myriad universal health care systems.
Insurance is NOT voluntary in the case of property and auto...
There's no law saying you must have renter's or homeowner's insurance. A lender may require you to obtain homeowner's insurance as a condition of a loan. There is generally a mandatory minimum level of liability insurance required by law in most jurisdictions in the Western world in order to operate a vehicle on public roads. There is no legal requirement to have any additional insurance (comp/collision, uninsured motorist, etc.) and there's no requirement to have liability if you won't be operating the vehicle on public roads.
This is a serious question. Considering conservatives are against minimum wage, against redistribution of wealth, against the commons (i.e. publicly funded things like police, schools, fire, etc), against unions, against healthcare. Really, what are they 'for'? And don't use the old personal responsibility line, because that isn't the question.
So, you pretty much want free stuff at the expense of other people. How is that a sustainable economic model? Almost everything you listed is NOT the government's responsibility to provide. It's that simple. The government doesn't owe you a wage - minimum or otherwise. It doesn't owe you health care. Union membership isn't a right. Where did you get the notion that its the government's job to provide all of that stuff? Why do you think that 1/2 of the population is obligated to pay for said services while the other have contributes nothing or less than nothing? Sometimes I think liberals are clinically insane.
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So, you pretty much want free stuff at the expense of other people. How is that a sustainable economic model? Almost everything you listed is NOT the government's responsibility to provide. It's that simple. The government doesn't owe you a wage - minimum or otherwise. It doesn't owe you health care. Union membership isn't a right. Where did you get the notion that its the government's job to provide all of that stuff? Why do you think that 1/2 of the population is obligated to pay for said services while the other have contributes nothing or less than nothing? Sometimes I think liberals are clinically insane.
I'm one of the contributors you speak of buddy. I shelled out $8k in federal and state income tax last year alone. And I'd rather get that stuff then stupid wars, Lockheed Martin/Raytheon and military bases in every single freaking country
Politics in a soundbite
Republican form = "What's mine is mine, what's yours is yours, don't trespass."
Every other form = "What's yours is mine, so shut up, sit down, pay and obey."
"What's yours is mine, what's mine is mine too....
I'm one of the contributors you speak of buddy. I shelled out $8k in federal and state income tax last year alone. And I'd rather get that stuff then stupid wars, Lockheed Martin/Raytheon and military bases in every single freaking country
I paid over $70K in federal and state taxes last year and had access to precisely the same government services you did. Please explain why I should pay 9X as much for the same thing?
Let me help. You can't. It's blatantly, unequivocally unfair that I pay more. And the sheer audacity of people like you whining about how MY money is redistributed is the epitome of arrogance and selfishness.
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