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Old 02-22-2017, 12:23 PM
 
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they would create new homegrown drugs and there would be more alcoholics - the people who do NOT want to live in a real world- won't
I really doubt that. People who want to use, already are. Regardless of legality or not, those that DON'T use, or don't want to use, won't. If things were to overnight become legal doesn't mean there would be a free for all of people running out to use drugs.
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Old 02-22-2017, 12:25 PM
 
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Well, legalization may sound like a simple solution but it will not necessarily put the cartels and the street drug dealers out of business. With legalization the price of any legalized drug will be much higher because of the regulations that will most likely come along, so that will only create an opportunity for the cartels and street drug dealers to sell their drugs at a much lower price.
That's really not true, just look at the cannabis prices in places that have legalized for adult recreational use.

The high price comes because it IS illegal, it is prohibited, it is smuggled and the market demand drives the cost. Further from the source = more $$$. More demand, more $$$.
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Old 02-22-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Well, legalization may sound like a simple solution but it will not necessarily put the cartels and the street drug dealers out of business. With legalization the price of any legalized drug will be much higher because of the regulations that will most likely come along, so that will only create an opportunity for the cartels and street drug dealers to sell their drugs at a much lower price.
In what bizzaro world does DRASTICALLY reducing the implicit risk in a business INCREASE the cost of the services provided by the business? Does not compute, not logical.
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Old 02-22-2017, 04:08 PM
 
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What Wiould Happen If The Use Of Illegal Narcotics Stopped?

If no one used Illegal Drugs anymore, this would be the TV show to win an Emmy Award every year.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhObKKvzijc
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I was not talking about the prohibition we saw in the 1930s and the problems that resulted from it, and yes I agree prohibition of alcohol would bring bigger problems, and we see the results of modern day prohibition of dangerous narcotics.

I wasn't around in the late 1940s and the mid 1950s, when America's inner cities didn't have the problems we see today, but I was a young kid in the late 1960s and I saw a different culture emerge in our society that basically said that it was okay to use drugs.
I don't think anyone is saying it's okay to use drugs. The laws, and propaganda moved public sentiment away from drugs. We had cocaine in coca cola at one point. No more marijuana since it allows blacks and hispanics to steal the white women. It wasn't out in the open.
There is more information out now about the effects and what is or isn't dangerous and to what extent.

If you want to understand why drugs are in our culture just look at our government. The biggest drug dealer in America. Good ole oxycodone pill mills. More people die from prescription drugs than automobile accidents.
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Old 02-23-2017, 03:22 AM
 
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The economy would drop... drug dealers at the top of the food chain spend money of high end stuff...
sigh.... The money would be spent elsewhere. Just not on drugs
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:40 AM
 
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The FBI and CIA would have to find other ways to fund clandestine operations.
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Old 02-23-2017, 08:42 AM
 
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Be a lot of people detoxing and trading illegally scripted pain killers.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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I watched a series of documentaries about narcotics and the people who run, or used to run the large cartels, like Pablo Escobar, Joaquín "El Chapo" Guzman, and the others who are the heads of such cartels, and I thought of this hypothetical scenario, if everyone in the United States and Canada were to quit using illegal narcotics, like cocaine, methamphetamines, maybe even marijuana, and others, the market for them would dry up, and we could subsequently see:

- Mexican and South American drug cartels go out of business
- Drug dealers in large cities like Chicago, Detroit and Los Angeles would have to find something else to do
- There would be a significant reduction in violent crime related to drug trafficking
- It would not give juveniles in the inner cities the incentive to pursue a life of crime
- It would free up resources in law enforcement agencies to focus on other issues

In any market when there's no demand, then those who supply the market would go out of business. Yes, I know this is not something that would happen overnight and it would take a while to realize the positive results, but it's a start to help regain control of the problems in our large cities that are caused by those who deal and use illegal narcotics.

What do you think?

I think we would see even more violence in the inner cities. Those dealers that are now without income will seek out other ways for it. Kidnapping, theft, prostitution, human trafficking would all go up.
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Old 02-23-2017, 12:59 PM
 
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That's really not true, just look at the cannabis prices in places that have legalized for adult recreational use.

The high price comes because it IS illegal, it is prohibited, it is smuggled and the market demand drives the cost. Further from the source = more $$$. More demand, more $$$.
With weed being legal in states, the discussion would be government run vs free market. The point being government run doesn't lower the costs.
Since when do regulations and taxes make prices lower? Colorado has taxes on weed that start at ~25% before local taxes hit.
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