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View Poll Results: Will Trump's order on transgender bathrooms hurt him or lose him supporters?
yes 26 10.20%
no 229 89.80%
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:05 AM
 
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Ultimately he will not lose support. The whole issue is false. Your gender is determined biologically and chromosomally and you are what your plumbing and X-Y chromosomes say you are. That is reality. Thinking you are something that you are not is a mental dysfunction. Bruce Jenner was born a male, Bruce Jenner is a male, Bruce Jenner will die a male. Surgery, clothing, hair and makeup, changing your name, and receiving certification from an indoctrinated therapist will change precisely nothing. You cannot change your sex. You cannot choose your sex. Any more than you can choose your race. You can mutilate your body with surgery and chemicals, and you can be a transvestite as far as clothing and makeup. But reality doesn't care about feelings or a political poll of the APA. If you have a penis and testicles, you are male, and you should urinate and defecate using the men's room, the room that is designed for the gender that has a penis, with plumbing fixtures specifically designed for reality.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Ultimately he will not lose support. The whole issue is false. Your gender is determined biologically and chromosomally and you are what your plumbing and X-Y chromosomes say you are. That is reality. Thinking you are something that you are not is a mental dysfunction. Bruce Jenner was born a male, Bruce Jenner is a male, Bruce Jenner will die a male. Surgery, clothing, and receiving certification from an indoctrinated therapist will change precisely nothing. You cannot change your sex. You cannot choose your sex. Any more than you can choose your race. You can mutilate your body with surgery and chemicals, and you can be a transvestite as far as clothing and makeup. But reality doesn't care about feelings or a political poll of the APA. If you have a penis and testicles, you are male, and you should urinate and defecate using the men's room, the room that is designed for the gender that has a penis, with plumbing fixtures specifically designed for reality.
Here we go, the "play the cards you're dealt routine"
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:08 AM
 
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I think it will help.

What is acceptable for the citizens of California is generally not going to fly here in Tennessee.

To me, an edict like this from on high in the federal government is dramatic overreach.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:18 AM
 
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They actually do with parental consent, because the results come out best before puberty has set in. It's not common, but it happens

Thanks for clarifying that. I did not know. And wow , do I find that disturbing.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:20 AM
 
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Thanks for clarifying that. I did not know. And wow , do I find that disturbing.
Just because you find it disturbing doesn't mean it is
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:37 AM
 
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Here we go, the "play the cards you're dealt routine"
Exactly, good euphemism. It reflects the sentiment of facing reality squarely. That is more of what we need. Start with reality, build your life from there. Self-mutilation and cross dressing will never lead to happiness or peace or integrity. When you start a war with reality, you lose. It's really that simple. You do exactly have to play the hand you are dealt when it comes to metaphysical primaries such as your gender, your race, or your species for that matter.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:42 AM
 
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Just because you find it disturbing doesn't mean it is

SMH...right because a child has developed the maturity level to make a life changing decision at that young of an age. Caitlyn Jenner was how old and is now undecided on whether his "change" was the right thing to do.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:43 AM
 
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Children who are "transgender" are children of liberal parents using their children for a social experiment. It's disgusting
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:44 AM
 
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Exactly, good euphemism. It reflects the sentiment of facing reality squarely. That is more of what we need. Start with reality, build your life from there. Self-mutilation and cross dressing will never lead to happiness or peace or integrity. When you start a war with reality, you lose. It's really that simple. You do exactly have to play the hand you are dealt when it comes to metaphysical primaries such as your gender, your race, or your species for that matter.
It worked for my relative. You obviously know nothing about Gender Dysphoria. There is no cure, so "playing the cards you're dealt" leads to depression and suicide.
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Old 02-24-2017, 09:45 AM
 
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SMH...right because a child has developed the maturity level to make a life changing decision at that young of an age. Caitlyn Jenner was how old and is now undecided on whether his "change" was the right thing to do.
The child doesn't make the decision, a psychiatrist (not psychologist) does. And FYI, psychiatrists are medical doctors
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