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Old 02-23-2017, 11:11 AM
 
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Nothing will stop the flow of drugs when they can make meth for $3/kilo and sell it here on the streets for 30-50x that.

Further we're a large exporter of guns to their country, which of course supports the cartels and make their Government's job very hard when trying to enforce laws.

But that has nothing to do with the millions of their citizens that have come here illegally and took American jobs, taxes and resources.

 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:19 AM
 
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The US and Mexico share about 2,000 miles of border.

The Gulf coast is about 1,600 miles.
The California coast is about 840 miles.

Trying to plug one hole does not stop leaks from finding another.

The point is to build the 700 mile long wall along the most porous areas of our southern border already approved by congress. This will force illegals to try and cross in more dangerous areas so fewer will try. The Border Patrol can take care of those areas. No one expects to cut back illegal immigration completely but we should make every attempt to curb it as much as we can.


Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, it works


San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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The point is to build the 700 mile long wall along the most porous areas of our southern border already approved by congress. This will force illegals to try and cross in more dangerous areas so fewer will try. The Border Patrol can take care of those areas. No one expects to cut back illegal immigration completely but we should make every attempt to curb it as much as we can.


Where U.S.-Mexico border fence is tall, it works


San Diego Fence Provides Lessons in Border Control : NPR


How about MANDATORY E-Verify? we should start there- give employers 6 month to comply-
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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Doesn't this go both ways? I mean if Americans weren't buying drugs which keeps them in demand the cartels wouldn't be as powerful as they are now.

Also, why dump the Central and South Americans unto Mexico?
This is not true.......why would anyone smoke Mexican pot and Cocaine comes from our country and overseas, not just Mexico and Central America! Good story for the government to blame Americans and their addictions to them not being able to stop the drugs flowing in.......see the connection, yet?
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:29 AM
 
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How about MANDATORY E-Verify? we should start there- give employers 6 month to comply-
First it need to work correctly. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...legal-workers/


The government needs to be responsible for not allowing people in here illegally, most people are just trying to keep their business going.
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:31 AM
 
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What I found interesting is the notion of returning all, whether from Mexico or not, to Mexico.


So, if a Canadian is an illegal (and that does happen), would they also be shipped off to Mexico?


Actually, serve them right.
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:33 AM
 
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The "Right thing," would be to change the immigration laws to let people work to become citizens of America. Destroying families is not the "Right thing."

Why not build bridges, instead of walls literally or figuratively. Mexico and the US could be countries of the future. Cities that gleam. Cities of hope. Both countries have so much to offer. With the different cultures and land masses. Food can be grown for the world. No more starving people. Spend money on finding cures for diseases, like Alzheimers, cancer, addictions of all kinds.

Throwing money to the wind in the name of hate, never works in the long run. IMO

Are you not aware why we have annual quotas for legal immigration? For one thing it's to protect jobs for our own citizens. We already have a legal process to come here. It begins in the immigrant's homeland not coming here illegally first. Once approved to come here legally at a certain point one can apply for citizenship. That's the process. It doesn't start on our soil after coming here illegally first.


Destroying families? Law breakers do that to themselves. The whole family can return to their homelands together, undestroyed and unseparated.


We can do all of what you are suggesting while still building a wall to keep illegal aliens and other undesirables out. What you are suggesting are no borders and no immigration laws. Good luck with that. It's a liberal's wet dream.

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Old 02-23-2017, 11:38 AM
 
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It is amusing to see just how poorly informed the Trumpers on this forum truly are. They don't seem to understand that Mexico has REAL recourse and that the USA MUST COMPLY or find itself with no recourse when they seek it.


Perhaps the real reason Trump won, is that so many Americans understand almost nothing beyond what they see on fo
Mexico can peruse various avenues and if they get judgements the USA must comply or find that nobody else complies when US interests are at stake....
That is the world you live in, so go ahead and pretend we can do whatever we want without consequences, but you will quickly find that is just is not so.
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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What I found interesting is the notion of returning all, whether from Mexico or not, to Mexico.


So, if a Canadian is an illegal (and that does happen), would they also be shipped off to Mexico?


Actually, serve them right.
I read this as "if they came via Mexico they leave via Mexico" and when those claiming to be refugees are involved it get's more complicated since they SHOULD be settling in the first safe country they come to, with plans to go home when it's safe. If they came via Mexico they probably had USA as a goal, not safety.


I don't have an opinion on that yet, the folks from further south or different places entirely. I know Mexico is used as an entry to the USA by many, but my knowledge about how it works or should work isn't good.
 
Old 02-23-2017, 11:46 AM
 
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Nothing will stop the flow of drugs when they can make meth for $3/kilo and sell it here on the streets for 30-50x that.

Further we're a large exporter of guns to their country, which of course supports the cartels and make their Government's job very hard when trying to enforce laws.
yep, and our government does almost nothing to stop it....
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