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Old 03-05-2017, 11:04 AM
 
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Are we deflecting from an Inconvenient Truth? That THIS is where climate scientists want to take us?


https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/sdgs
Lies.

Not a page made by scientists. There is a link at the bottom of the page, called about us. Literally any moron could click on it and see it is not a scientific organization. Maybe you aren't lying, maybe you really don't understand the difference between a policy organization like the UN and a scientific one.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:07 AM
 
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The point isn't what the goals are. They happen to be the usual grab bag of Marxism, collectivism, statism, and leftism, with a dollop of political correctness and social engineering. But the point is: there are indeed goals, and they are political goals. And climate science is being used as a battering ram to achieve those political goals.


It's not about science or truth. It's about the goals.
Nope.

The science is valid irrespective of what the goals are. That is true of all science, it is either valid or not regardless of what policy it influences.

But you are so irrationally afraid of the policy you think he science suggests, that you NEED the science to be wrong so as to protect your belief system.

Because you can't be rational, you don't belong in a debate about the science. You already admitted in an earlier post it doesn't matter to you that the science is correct, you would rather destroy the world to protect your belief system.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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In this case the ideology drives the science, and therefore the resulting science is self-nullifying.
Saying it doesn't make it so. All you have done is post a link to a policy organization THAT DOES NOT FUND SCIENCE.

If anything your sources show there is no financial impetus for scientists to come to a particular conclusion.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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Of course it wasn't published, as he has no training in science of any kind.
That was not the reason Steve McIntyre's paper wasn't published by the same groups that will publish any POS paper that promotes AGW. Further, to state Steve McIntyre has no training in science of any kind shows you are nothing more than a liar who is willing to commit slander because the exact same education used by AGW proponents are considered among the gold standard of climate scientists. Those educations include meteorological and earth (as in geological or geophysical) sciences.

The fact is Steve McIntyre's paper wasn't published by the same groups that will publish any POS paper that promotes AGW because promoting AGW is their agenda and those publications almost never publish anything that even remotely challenges something AGW related.

So... if you want to continue to LIE and commit slander to argue your position, I will continue to call you out for the liar you are.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:42 AM
 
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Lies.

Not a page made by scientists. There is a link at the bottom of the page, called about us. Literally any moron could click on it and see it is not a scientific organization. Maybe you aren't lying, maybe you really don't understand the difference between a policy organization like the UN and a scientific one.
Not only are these "sustainable goals" the same goals as the climate scientist who report to the IPCC, they are largely your personal goals, and you know it. And they are the goals of the vast majority of climate scientists, and you know that.


Climate science is all about policy and goals and CONTROLLING AND MAKING CHANGES TO THE LIVES OF MEN.


You cannot escape it by retreating to an ivory tower that is divorced from politics. An ivory tower, by the way, that I pay for. Most oceanographers are effectively employed by the State, correct? Hiding in their left wing universities suckling at the public teet. Oceanographers are in large part, public welfare recipients, correct? They basically have no job, other than generating hysteria to keep the funds a flowin'.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:44 AM
 
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Saying it doesn't make it so. All you have done is post a link to a policy organization THAT DOES NOT FUND SCIENCE.

If anything your sources show there is no financial impetus for scientists to come to a particular conclusion.

A policy organization that is the public mouthpiece of Big Climate. They are your PR arm, and you know it.
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Old 03-05-2017, 11:49 AM
 
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Getting back to AGW nonsense itself, we see that inferential techniques of past measurement of temperature are inaccurate and unreliable, especially as we attempt to predict future changes in temperature to 1 degree precision.


Ice Cores May Not Be Accurate Thermometers - Astrobiology Magazine


If the inferential techniques are inexact, the whole house of cards comes crashing down. You cannot establish trends without a baseline. And the baseline doesn't exist if the inferential techniques that provide it are unreliable. Which we see they are.
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:25 PM
 
Location: USA
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You cannot escape it by retreating to an ivory tower that is divorced from politics. An ivory tower, by the way, that I pay for. Most oceanographers are effectively employed by the State, correct? Hiding in their left wing universities suckling at the public teet. Oceanographers are in large part, public welfare recipients, correct? They basically have no job, other than generating hysteria to keep the funds a flowin'.
No worries. Soon, all real estate transactions will be done online and you will be out of work. No more skimming 6% from real estate transactions. You will no longer have to pay for the evil government scientists, since you won't have any money to pay them. You will be the welfare queen, unless you can find a job with a shady used car dealership somewhere.
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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Not only are these "sustainable goals" the same goals as the climate scientist who report to the IPCC, they are largely your personal goals, and you know it. And they are the goals of the vast majority of climate scientists, and you know that.
Ah, so now your belief system makes you know the future. Not only are you willing to destroy the world ot further it, but now you have set yourself up as some sort of messiah.

You literally no nothing about what I think and instead have made up things because you can't ague the science.


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Climate science is all about policy and goals and CONTROLLING AND MAKING CHANGES TO THE LIVES OF MEN.


You cannot escape it by retreating to an ivory tower that is divorced from politics. An ivory tower, by the way, that I pay for. Most oceanographers are effectively employed by the State, correct? Hiding in their left wing universities suckling at the public teet. Oceanographers are in large part, public welfare recipients, correct? They basically have no job, other than generating hysteria to keep the funds a flowin'.
Does anyone else find it funny that a woman who lives by commission while neither actually doing anything, or making anything, is whining about people who actually do things?

Things like, protecting people and property; saving, managing and developing new fisheries; making our service men and women safer everyday, and thousands of other things you wouldn't understand. For example, my daughter a physical oceanographer, who while working for the USCG (interesting to know you think of those who serve as welfare recipients) developed new methods of tracking currents in order to better track lost ships and people who have fallen off of them.

What have you done for your fellow man lately?
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Old 03-05-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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A policy organization that is the public mouthpiece of Big Climate. They are your PR arm, and you know it.
Your delusions do not exist as evidence. Come back when you have some.
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