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Old 02-28-2017, 01:19 PM
 
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The company I work for is in desperate need for Machinists, Electricans and Welders. We start out at 15 dollars an hour and after a year a person could make 20.

However, It is nearly impossible to find good applicants. We either have applicants with a lengthy criminal record or can't pass a drug test. I have no idea what we will do when all the old guys retire. We're willing to train people but people have to be willing to do the hard work. So I agree here we just don't have enough people who want to become machinists, welders, electricans ect.

As one that has done whatever I could to keep a roof over my families head, I find it nearly impossible for someone to just pick up and leave, say Ohio and move to Alaska for a $15 an hour job. As a single high school kid, maybe but not a married individual that might have kids in school, a spouse that works...etc.


It just seems like there is a disconnect between where the jobs are, and who is looking. And the high cost of getting to them.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:26 PM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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If I was a welder I wouldn't come to Alaska for $15 an hour either. We pay somewhere around $35 and this is in a very low cost of living area.
Your area? (Generically IE South Florida, Greater Chicagoland...)
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:36 PM
 
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Your area? (Generically IE South Florida, Greater Chicagoland...)
Mid Ohio Valley.
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Old 02-28-2017, 01:59 PM
 
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The company I work for is in desperate need for Machinists, Electricans and Welders. We start out at 15 dollars an hour and after a year a person could make 20.

However, It is nearly impossible to find good applicants. We either have applicants with a lengthy criminal record or can't pass a drug test. I have no idea what we will do when all the old guys retire. We're willing to train people but people have to be willing to do the hard work. So I agree here we just don't have enough people who want to become machinists, welders, electricans ect.
Well that is your problem. $15/hour in Alaska is garbage pay.

Experienced welders around here get $28/hr.

You are offering bottom basement wages, so you are getting bottom of the barrel applicants.
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Old 08-01-2017, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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Default And German bosses

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Germany's skills training program is worth looking at. They provide all sorts of training and retraining.

Germany realizes that a skilled work force is the foundation of their economy.
I have five bossed on my lifetime list of those who "grasped the concept": Three Germans, one American, and some guy from New Brunswick. It 's not just the employees in the mix. The mandate of management applies heavy here.
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Old 08-01-2017, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Earth
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It's all about education. We need to break up large dysfunctional urban districts and teachers' unions.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:09 AM
 
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Industries are too lazy to train potential employees. there are many Americans who could be retrained and perform the work.
Industry uses this as an excuse to import cheap labor and drive down pay levels. It is a Global initiative from many corporations. Dont fall prey to the "chicken littles" that say the employees dont exist. Also if you are having issues finding employees you better look at yourself. Someone is beating your offerings.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:16 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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Translation: Laid off coal miners and steel workers dont possess the skills needed to staff techinical/industrial jobs of today..



Factory CEOs tell Trump: Jobs exist, skilled applicants don't - LA Times
They can be retrained. The tech schools in our state will run any programs that employers need skilled workers for and have them on the job in 9 months to 2 years.

I know that the state will pay for retraining also for workers that don't have skills, even those on public assistance, I know one that got an electronics degree and another a nursing degree paid for through some sort of get them off welfare program.

Also, jobs need to exist where the people have homes. Most people cannot afford to relocate to a job. I have seen many do this, the job disappear and it bankrupt the family leaving them without a home in the new location.

So, workers need to be trained. Many companies train their own workers when they need them.

Stop the welfare checks from going in the mail and people will be more eager to learn and work.
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Old 01-15-2018, 07:17 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Industry is built to make products and money, not function as a trade school. Laziness is someone who learns no marketable skills and expecting someone else to pay them a skilled labor wage.

Ain't happening.
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Old 01-15-2018, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Pennsylvania
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Translation: Laid off coal miners and steel workers dont possess the skills needed to staff techinical/industrial jobs of today..



Factory CEOs tell Trump: Jobs exist, skilled applicants don't - LA Times

Here's a freaking idea: How about the manufacturers do their own training. Whine, whine, whine about not enough skilled applicants....but someone else (the taxpayer) can pay for it.
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