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I don't think that Trump is guaranteed to be a disaster. For his supporters, he certainly won't be.
The support of the Trump voters will be lost if they lose their healthcare and jobs (or don’t see their jobs improve). Once Trump requests a replacement for Obamacare and support and funding for his infrastructure program, then the Republican Congress becomes the enemy if they don’t deliver (which they won’t). So the Representatives and Senators will lose the Trump voters’ support before Trump does.
2018 will be the key year. Insurance companies are already pulling out of ACA exchanges for 2018. A replacement needs to be passed by spring if the health coverage carnage is to stop. Similarly, it takes 12 to 24 months for infrastructure spending to start to make any difference, so funding for that needs to start this spring if anything is to happen on the job front in 2018. Anybody see the slightest bit of evidence that Congress can even conceive of accomplishing these two goals?
If people think the last couple of weeks have been a bit tough for the Trump Administration, just wait, because you haven't seen nothing yet.
Dems are only "confident" because they have succeeded in deluding themselves. They have abandoned everything the Democratic party once stood for. They have abandoned the vast majority of the "moderate" or centrist electorate. They have abandoned the working class of this country. They have abandoned the people smart enough to realize that if businesses can't make a profit, they can't offer jobs. They have lost the people that start or run businesses, or that have their retirement savings invested in businesses in this country.
Instead, they have been taken over by the far-left. The nutcases that think they are entitled to free stuff, without any empathy for those that had to work to produce that "free" stuff. They embrace everyone but American citizens. The Berniebots (or worse the brain-dead that support Ellison and Pocahontas) are now the "soul" of the country, and have some crazy idea that they are "normal" and somehow represent the mainstream of this country.
Trump has no plans to help the average guy, there is no way on earth to bring back those jobs. There is no happy ending if the ACA is truly molded to fit Ryan's selfish model.
Trump is knee deep in Russian money, he is surrounded by people who have agendas that are not inline with the USA's current or future needs.
Trump has been captured by Bannon Miller Anton and others. These guys are white power freaks, they have an agenda that is so out of whack that it is unlikely the GOP can survive long term if they allow the status quo to stand. But right now they are so excited by their unexpected win that they are pretending to themselves that everything is "ok" and will work out fine...
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Originally Posted by sandsthetime
The support of the Trump voters will be lost if they lose their healthcare and jobs (or don’t see their jobs improve). Once Trump requests a replacement for Obamacare and support and funding for his infrastructure program, then the Republican Congress becomes the enemy if they don’t deliver (which they won’t). So the Representatives and Senators will lose the Trump voters’ support before Trump does.
2018 will be the key year. Insurance companies are already pulling out of ACA exchanges for 2018. A replacement needs to be passed by spring if the health coverage carnage is to stop. Similarly, it takes 12 to 24 months for infrastructure spending to start to make any difference, so funding for that needs to start this spring if anything is to happen on the job front in 2018. Anybody see the slightest bit of evidence that Congress can even conceive of accomplishing these two goals?
If you think things are nasty right now for the Trump Administration, you haven't seen nothing yet.
^^^ And there are many town hall meetings that even include Republicans who are concerned.
Also, there's another thread mentioning that "these crazy liberal democrats have no empathy
and/or sympathy" which is nonsense. Here are two separate reports I saw recently and this liberal
definitely has a lot of sympathy for them. Will President Trump bring jobs back to their community and let them keep their healthcare?
They are saying many times that Trump is guaranteed to be a disaster and everyone will be flocking back to them
In no time. They also say that the public supports all their policies and views by far
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Originally Posted by dsjj251
On the Presidential level, Trump is only president because of the system , not the vote of the people as he lost by 3 million votes.
The same can be said of the house where Democrats got more votes than the percentage of seats they hold.
As for the overall argument, what you say is indeed true. There are plenty of people who vote Republican,but actually align more with Democrats.
This makes no sense. Each Senate race is its own race. The race in California does not have anything to do with a Senate race anywhere
I see no reason for the democrats to be "confident".
The proper role is wait and watch. Trump and the Republicans have only begun to face into the difficulties of actually governing. The initial steps have been very clumsy. But it is very early.
It is clear Trump can and may raise havoc on a number of fronts. But few are really big deals. He can crack on immigration...but it goes no where without large appropriations likely to be resisted by the Republicans. Similarly the plans to replace the ACA appear to be running into a stone wall...you either have to spend a lot of money or cut people from the insurance rolls. Neither approach will be very popular or easily gotten through Congress. He can ban immigrants from some countries but that does very little to help the US or even increase its security. He can attempt to strengthen the military but that is notorious for the billions it costs. He can cut taxes...but only at the expense of increased deficits.
Reforming a large part of the government is very difficult particularly with a minority President and a filibuster-able Senate.
So the Dems sit back and watch the difficulties unfold.
Trump and the Republicans may figure it out. But it is a big problem. You obviously can run for office with a whole mess of inconsistent policies...but you cannot govern that way.
They are saying many times that Trump is guaranteed to be a disaster and everyone will be flocking back to them
In no time. They also say that the public supports all their policies and views by far
You're wrong in your premise. Democrats are NOT confident. Hopeful, but not confident.
I'm not confident of anything. I think Trump and Trump supporters will absolutely ruin this country and make it like The Handmaid's Tale. I'm only hoping if it gets bad enough, Canada will adjust the border to include Washington State. We are entering very frightening times and I fear Trump is turning into a dictator.
You don't speak for everybody in Washington state. There is no way in hell I would live under Canada.
They are saying many times that Trump is guaranteed to be a disaster and everyone will be flocking back to them
In no time. They also say that the public supports all their policies and views by far
What policies? The whole Clinton campaign was based on what you look like and "I'm not him." She didn't see Americans. She saw groups of aggrieved people she needed to develop an accent for to win them over.
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And there are many town hall meetings that even include Republicans who are concerned.
