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Old 02-28-2017, 05:39 PM
 
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Good thing I don't pay into SS anymore. That money goes straight into the retirement account.
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:51 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Well now, the tea party has their guy (Mulvaney) in charge of the POTUS budget office. So all the old folks on C-D (there are many based on the poll) get ready to lose or pay more for less Medicare coverage and lower SS.

They put out their "skinny budget" as a test. So you Tea partiers better get together to keep them away.
BULL! But nice try.
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:53 PM
 
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Nope just the facts. Have seen what a GOP budget looks like in NC and it is not people friendly.
You wouldn't know facts if they slapped you in the face holding a sign that said "Facts!"
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Old 02-28-2017, 05:54 PM
 
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Spot on!
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:05 PM
 
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If

The only change to Medicare that was made in recent years was Obama transferring $800 billion from Medicare to Obamacare.

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any proof of this. I see it stated by the right a lot but they never provide any solid proof only people saying it.

And at the same time I see rock solid rebuttals, so any proof, or is this just another supportable Rightwing magical myth that is true by wishing...
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:09 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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They not only think the government is here to support them in old age; they think the government exists to support them. Period!
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:10 PM
 
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The illegals come here because our government gives out freebies to them.
Get off that Right Wing drug.... You get up at 4AM and go out and cut lettuce and pick fruit..... and get paid next to nothing to do it, then come back and talk your delusions utterances. You are 100% Typical Republican, always claiming someone else wants something for nothing, and we have a whole Republican Administration in trying to get something for nothing, just like the man sitting in the top seat as President.

I am so sick of the idiocy of Republican mentality and ideology because it is inhumane and sick.... it is the Root of America's Industrial Failure, and we see it repeated every time there is a Republican Administration for the past 50 yrs.

All the Americans living in all the homes built since the late 1970's and through the 80's , 90's and early 2000's are living in homes built by Mexican labor because Contractors hunted them down with every desperate "greed" motive they could conjure up to chase them down. Most of these same people whining and talking crap, would be flat out upset if they go in some of these business that provide services and there is no Mexican people, because we've all seen lazy whites and lazy blacks, that don't do any more than they are told, where as the Mexicans are in cleaning when they don't have customers, they are there greeting people with a smile, they are the ones doing all the prep work for the foods that American are more than delighted to order from the Menu, and they'd still be cutting grass except white men now figured out its profitable so they jumped ship and took these same jobs they once detested.

Mexicans come here for the reason of opportunity to try and build a better life and they work their asses off when they do. If white people were not hiring them, they would not be coming. That's how simple that fact is, but the same ethnic group that is always whining and crying and claiming foul, will hunt down an illegal trying to get some cheap labor. So they can boast to their friends about what a good deal they got, or lie about how much they paid to have something to flaunt in front of their associates.

I've known many Mexican people in California, capable, willing and able to do any job they are asked to do, they also figured out how to save their money, create business, buy homes and now people are pissed off because they now have political power.

Many of the once white communities which white people left to go buy new cookie cutter homes in the desert and other areas, left those communities and Mexicans came in and bought those homes and became home owners and they also began to vote and have councils and mayors from their community, and yes, many did their due to get their Green Cards so they could achieve those aims. No matter how prejudice anyone is they can't take it from them. Some of you sound about like Hitler, complaining about the Jews.
Ready at a moment notices to steal what ever the Mexican created and have, if you can figure out how to do to them some means of exorcist, so you can covet what they built or gained.

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The electric company has hired as many Mexican as they can find, to go across this nation and trim the trees back from the electric lines, and when they finish using them, they will sing the same song of anti-Mexican lyrics the rest of the greed monster of republican demeanor sings. Nobody said a word because, big business is doing it.... Go ask your electric company why they are not hiring American black and white people, "they will give you any line of crap" when the truth is they want "cheap labor" and people support it, because they want the trees trimmed, and the electric company with their vast profits, tell the same lie over and over, claiming they can't afford to pay living wages to Americans.

Trump told the exact same lie about why he hire immigrant and people on work visa to work his resorts, rather than paying a living wage to American's and no one said a word.
People just utter anything the Right Wing Media tells them to regurgitate.... and they continue to do it on cue, like a well trained parquet.

Half these business will do anything to avoid hiring poor blacks, and there are many poor whites they do what they can to avoid hiring them as well.... and the lie is always the same. "claiming people don't want to work", when the fact is, some are just bigoted and don't want to pay people and want to stereotype with prejudice poor whites and poor blacks.

You can go to any city and find a mass of small business, that is lusting to find Mexican they can under pay, and you will rarely see Asian Business that hire anyone except Mexicans and other Asians. They bring that same cultural prejudice about skin color and use the same lies that they know many white people use of claiming that blacks don't want to work, and that poor whites don't come to them to seek work.

There are many small business that hire poor whites, and then don't give them any benefits and work the hell out of them, until their body breaks down, and then they fight the hell out of them if they apply for workers compensation. These same people seek out any Mexican that is either illegal or with limited educational certification, because they figure if they get hurt, they either don't know how to pursue the benefit of workmans comp, or they are illegal and afraid.

American's have a history of lying, especially in the white ethnic sector of small business all the way back to the days of slavery and indenture, and those lies have not ceased, often times they just re-craft the lie to fit with the system of today. This is a country that was built on "stolen labor" and it has always hated to pay people for labor. Except the Wealthy will pay the Well to Do, and they groom them to be in the administration and they are taught, to seek out cheap labor, and denigrate minorities in the process of prejudiced mentalities filled with slander of any and every type and they are directed to be very selective about the poor whites they are willing to hire. The poor whites that may have a pretty facial appeal, or a woman with a nice figure, or a white male that is 6 ft tall and fit some aspect of media profiled imagery, is the ones likely to get hired, whether they know the work or not, the ones that are overweight, or don't have that spit and polished look are shown the door quickly and given any line of lie, to try and get them away as quick as possible.

This has always been the History of America and how it functions. When Civil Liberties stand up to fight for these people, be they black or white, then out comes those whom are ignorant, whining and crying because Civil Liberties Organizations have a humane respect for people, without concern about how they look or if they are poor.

Next time you get ready to prepare dinner, you might want to be thankful to the hard working immigrants who come and provide the harvesting of foods that you consume.

Go look around at historical building that were built brick by brick and marvel at their beauty, and when you finish, give respect to the many poor and working poor black people and poor and working poor white people and the poor and working poor Mexican people who laid those bricks.

American People needs to get over that Antebellum Mentality, because as long as it is saturated in society, there will be nothing but condemnation and disrespect for the works and service that people provide.

That same sick mentality is how people screwed themselves over, to vote against Unions, and support Outsourcing and Destroyed the Jobs that people worked with daily dedication.... and shipped them off to foreign lands looking for slave wage labor, so they could gloat and claim how much they ripped off the foreign labor, and how it helps them RIP OFF the American Consumer, by charging them prices for "Slave Wage Imported Goods AS IF to price it as though they paid an American Living Wage to have produced it. The history of a nation lusting for a repeat of what was built upon the institution of slavery, indenture and share cropping and piece meal rips off of the people, is the mentality that has been taught in the University System long before the end of slavery and now days, they teach it in every way they can, and pay the wealthy to pay each other outrageous sums to carry it out in the every day system of America. The Board Rooms are full of the Orchestrators, creating an ongoing clone script program from business to business, of how to fleece, indenture and engage low wage servitude upon and against the people, and they been doing it for centuries. The University itself is as criminal in doing it to young people, ripping them off with insidious scrips of curriculum, that does not prepare them to do anything except pay the debt of a student loan, to the banks that participate in the game. Universities DETEST Vocational and Trade Schools, because they hate the fact these places teach usable skills, and do it in a short time and don't charge 10's of thousands of dollars to do so. Universities have done everything they can to try and keep vocational and tech skill wages low, by filling Human Resource Office with people who support the game plan of low pay for vocational and technical skills. One day, people will wake up and learn the game that has been set up against them, to keep the despaired and economically challenged, thus making them desperate to the point, they are coerced by this process to accept it, just to keep a roof over their head. In a world where companies are bought and sold for $BILLIONS, and individuals are paid $10's of millions, it is nothing more than slavery to pay people minimum wage of $7-10 dollars, when it is not enough to sustain their basic to any level of standard. Business now claim profits in the ranges of 100's of Millions every 3 months and some make Billions every 3 months, and Banks hide more billions of profit than they claim, because it always double or triple what they officially claim. No one likely should make less than $20 hr and there should not be Inflation to make it equal less. America's Economy Claims it Generates $18 TRILLION A YEAR, then to pay people a living wage should not be a problem. It takes at least $20 an hour, to earn enough to pay taxes, Rent or Mortgage, Buy Food, Pay for a Car, Buy Fuel, Pay for Medical and Dental Coverage, Buy clothing and the basics to sustain ones self, in the so called promoted image of American Standards.

You might want to ask why, with the lust of American's for Cell Phones, there are NONE made on American Soil? Or Why people are paying $100 for some Tennis Shoes made of Molded Foam and synthetics of any sort, that cost less than $10 to produce and ship to America. Yet, these Executives Boast and Brag and Over pay themselves like they are the New Plantation Owners.

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Old 02-28-2017, 06:11 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Yep! All the angry seniors in flyover land (40% of the posters here) are about to get what their demographic group voted for.
WRONG!

And by the way, so-called "fly-over land" is most of America.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:17 PM
 
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We all know that Ryan has had his eye on Medicare for a long time. If you don't believe me look it up. He was trying to get this cut in Medicare when he was running with Romney. They don't care about Social Security and Medicare because they don't receive it. Maybe if they're on the same plan we are they may change it and improve it.
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Old 02-28-2017, 06:26 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I bet you aren't complaining when you fuel up that car over there in Rowan county with $2.50 gasoline either. You know what NC gas taxes are like.

LOL don't change the subject or anything!
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