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Old 03-01-2017, 09:46 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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There is a reason they didn't hold on to power for long.

"We have to pass it to find out what is in it".

They lost power on that day but because she can raise money she is still in power. It goes to show it's all about the money, not in helping people. It's why they were abandoned.
You're just impatient. You think these types of massive welfare programs is easily implemented if the D's have even a super majority in the Congress? ACA by itself was a 1000 page law. Someone had to come up with it and debate over the details, write the law to actually make sense, research into health policy, consult experts, getting hit on the head my Paul Ryan while doing so, etc..

You have unrealistic expectations if that's the case. Dude both parties are bought off. Blame the tax system if anything. Like I said earlier, AT LEAST D's try to do the right thing.
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Old 03-01-2017, 09:54 PM
 
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You're just impatient. You think these types of massive welfare programs is easily implemented if the D's have even a super majority in the Congress? ACA by itself was a 1000 page law. Someone had to come up with it and debate over the details, write the law to actually make sense, research into health policy, consult experts, getting hit on the head my Paul Ryan while doing so, etc..
No, all they did was ask the pharmaceutical companies what they wanted and wrote it into law.

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You have unrealistic expectations if that's the case. Dude both parties are bought off. Blame the tax system if anything. Like I said earlier, AT LEAST D's try to do the right thing.
I don't consider lying and cheating the right thing.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:09 PM
 
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Does anyone still believe that Democrats have any interest to work together to get things done or will they just keep dividing and working against the will of the people who chose to change to back away from another Democratic President for a reason!

Not even choosing the first female President was what moved the Democrats to a win as they lost the election in the part where it counts.

Watching Schumer on NBC now saying he didn't see anything positive the President said last night seems to confirm the Democrats will fight this government on literally everything!
Judging by the responses so far on this topic its the Repubs that need act like grown ups, instead of ranting on about the same old hateful divisive rhetoric vilifying 60-70 million of your fellow Americans because they happen to be Democrats doesnt strike me as a path to working together.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:31 PM
 
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Well hopefully Democrats will change positions with: Increasing regulations and taxes on risky financial investments, stop bailing out/nationalizing corporations, flat business tax rate, national sales tax, less immigration regulation, reduce undocumented immigrants coming into the nation, regulate large banks, reinstate the Glass-Stegall Act, tariffs on imports, do away with the IRS, less involvement with NATO, build up defense of military, more clandestine operations/less global involvement, singlet payer health insurance, legalize marijuana & prostitution, decriminalize various street drugs, increase finding for private housing, do away with Lobbyist in the Government, decrease FDA regulation, support LGBT rights, neutrality for all, away with minimum wage replace with Stare liveable wage, improve US infrastructure, end Government subsidies, end eminent domain, abolish the death penalty, increase funding to NASA, and so forth.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:34 PM
 
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The "people" voted for Hillary Clinton, not Donald Trump. 3/4 of the electorate did not vote for Mr. Trump.
California voted for Hillary. Take out California and she is crushed in both the popular vote and E.C.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Gone
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California voted for Hillary. Take out California and she is crushed in both the popular vote and E.C.
California is still part of the Union, so much for that speculation. What I found more telling is that nearly half of voters supported neither Hillary or Trump.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:42 PM
 
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California voted for Hillary. Take out California and she is crushed in both the popular vote and E.C.
LOL you can't take out a state to fit your agenda. Why not take out Texas. How many votes would Trump have lost there.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:44 PM
 
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LOL you can't take out a state to fit your agenda. Why not take out Texas. How many votes would Trump have lost there.
I know. Its the most pathetic argument ever. "If you take out THESE Americans".....yeah, way to support your countrymen.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:46 PM
 
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California is still part of the Union, so much for that speculation. What I found more telling is that nearly half of voters supported neither Hillary or Trump.
I can't blame them.
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Old 03-01-2017, 10:48 PM
 
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LOL you can't take out a state to fit your agenda. Why not take out Texas. How many votes would Trump have lost there.
Hillary's popular vote lead was all in California. Either way, she lost bigly.
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