I wish I had visited Paris when it was still French... (drugs, regular)

[MUTGR]

Mob violence in lawless Paris as video shows 'woman tourist' viciously attacked | Daily Mail Online

...doesn't seem to be much point now.

[golimar]

Muslims are turning France into a hell-hole (aka Muslim country).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHzUnOya7Mw

[Drewjdeg]

I'm declaring a requirement for this thread: only people that have visited Paris can comment.

And by the way, your assumption is completely ridiculous. Paris is one of the most vibrant and beautiful cities in Western Europe. It seems people now days are slaves to sensationalist media who thrives off of fear.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by Drewjdeg

I'm declaring a requirement for this thread: only people that have visited Paris can comment.

And by the way, your assumption is completely ridiculous. Paris is one of the most vibrant and beautiful cities in Western Europe. It seems people now days are slaves to sensationalist media who thrives off of fear.

It sounds like a lot fewer people are visiting. I wonder why?

Attacks Take Toll on French Tourism | Inter Press Service

[PedroMartinez]

I was in Paris 20 odd years ago when France won the World Cup when they hosted it. That was awesome, and I'm not even that much of a kickball fan.

[MUTGR]

Originally Posted by Drewjdeg

You haven't even been there, why are you making this thread. Of course it's inaccurate.

How so.

Does the airport count?

Seems like a tourism to Europe in general is way down:

Experts: Tourists avoiding Europe after terror attacks - USA Today
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...3.../82268504/
USA Today
Mar 29, 2016 - Hopper's data shows that searches by travelers considering Europe are down 13% so far this year, compared to the same period last year.
U.S. Warns American Tourists in Europe of Possible Terrorist Attacks ...
fortune.com/2016/06/01/europe-terrorist-attacks/
Jun 1, 2016 - Disney Infinity Closing Down For Good in March 2017 July 30, 2016 ... The U.S. Is Warning American Tourists in Europe About Possible ...
European tourism plunges after Brussels and Paris terror attacks ...
https://www.rt.com/business/337612-b...lasts-tourism/
RT
Mar 29, 2016 - Holiday bookings are down throughout Western Europe after two terrorist attacks in four months alter the perception of safety on the continent.
Australian travellers turn away from Europe tourism as terror fears persist
http://www.news.com.au/.../europe/........News.com.au
May 10, 2016 - Australian travellers turn away from Europe tourism as terror fears persist ... Turkey: Visitor numbers down 35.8 per cent in first quarter of 2016, ...
European tourism hit hard by terrorist attacks - MarketWatch
MarketWatch: Stock Market News - Financial News › Industries › Leisure/ArtsMarketWatch
Mar 28, 2016 - European tourism hit hard by terrorist attacks ... the hotel sector's health--was down 13% over the first two months of 2016 compared with a year ...
European tourism hurt by terrorism, air crashes - MarketWatch
MarketWatch: Stock Market News - Financial News › General › International newsMarketWatch
May 24, 2016 - European tourism hurt by terrorism, air crashes ... that recent terror attacks could drive down ticket prices more generally across Europe.
Brussels terror attacks hit Europe-wide travel - CNBC.com
Brussels terror attacks hit Europe-wide travel
CNBC
Apr 1, 2016 - Brussels terror attacks hit Europe-wide travel ... where international arrivals are seen down 24 percent, multiple major cities in Europe will ... "Frankly, Europe, being a number one destination for tourism, will always be on the ...
Europe's Travel, Tourism Sectors Sent Reeling by Brussels Attacks ...
http://www.wsj.com/.../europes-trave...ling-by-...The Wall Street Journal
Mar 22, 2016 - Europe's Travel, Tourism Sectors Sent Reeling by Brussels Attacks ... Officials early in the day shut down air and rail links in and out of the city, ...
As refugees stream into Europe, tourists face their own set of ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/...eu...s.../31dde884-...
The Washington Post
Oct 8, 2015 - As refugees stream into Europe, tourists face their own set of questions .... Knauf said the inspections are random and could slow down travel.
Terrorism Scares Away the Tourists Europe Was Counting On - The ...
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/.../e...rism.htm...The New York Times
4 days ago - Terrorism Scares Away the Tourists Europe Was Counting On ... 0.3 percent from April to June, down from 0.6 percent in the previous quarter.

[Retroit]

This happens in the U.S. frequently on college campuses after sporting events. Booze + drugs + mobs = trouble.

[BigDGeek]

Originally Posted by Drewjdeg

I'm declaring a requirement for this thread: only people that have visited Paris can comment.

And by the way, your assumption is completely ridiculous. Paris is one of the most vibrant and beautiful cities in Western Europe. It seems people now days are slaves to sensationalist media who thrives off of fear.

I'll do you one better...I've LIVED there. I also visited regularly in the early 1990s and the difference 15 years made was startling.

I wasn't in fear of my life when I lived there, but it definitely felt less safe than it did in the early 90s. Lots more third world immigrants, lots more petty crime. I rarely saw people openly assaulting each other in broad daylight, but it did happen from time to time. (Ditto every other European country.)

[ryever]

Paris is safer than any US city. I could understand the Swiss or I don't know people from Japan saying Paris is unsafe but Americans ? America is third world when it comes to crime and overall safety, America's homicide rate is 3 times France's.

When it comes to tourism, it's understandable that some people don't want to visit a country that was just attacked by terrorists, people on vacation don't want to have to think about those things and want to have fun and relax. However tourists are still everywhere in France even after the Nice attacks, the number of tourists may be lower than last year but France is still going to top the list of the most visited countries on Earth, whether French bashing anglo media likes it or not

[PedroMartinez]

Originally Posted by ryever

Paris is safer than any US city. I could understand the Swiss or I don't know people from Japan saying Paris is unsafe but Americans ? America is third world when it comes to crime and overall safety, America's homicide rate is 3 times France's.

What skews our numbers so bad? Urban areas.

If you talk on CD about how dangerous urban cities like Chicago or DC are, you'll be quickly told that it's only certain areas.

The US is no more dangerous than France if you stay out of specific areas of these cities.