Jane Fonda: I have been raped and was sexually abused as a child (enemy, 2014)
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Well, anyone that knows my history on this forum would know that I have always been sympathetic towards victims of sexual abuse. I have been very outspoken against the epidemic of rape on college campuses for example, and the sick way universities have been sweeping it under the rug. So to brush me off by saying that I'm a male and wouldn't understand or sympathize, is way out of line.
A poster earlier said Jane seems intent on putting her name out lately, which I agree. Why didn't she say anything earlier?
^^ why does that matter? Maybe she felt no one would believe her?
Many people who have been abused don't necessarily share it, for many reasons.
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Originally Posted by Cantabridgienne
Most rapes--particularly child sexual abuse-- are unreported
I believe her, it makes sense in the context of her life. Yes, it does seem that a lot of celebrities (actresses) claim it but have you considered that maybe acting appeal to them as a way to avoid reality?
Hollywood is a cesspool of misogyny, casting couches, and pedophelia. And outside of the porn industry, they are the most exploitative industry for women. They hire them young and leave them high and dry by the time they're in their late 30s. They may get to be someone's mom with three or four scenes after that.
I remember when Maggie Gyllenhaal said they debated whether she was too old at 37 to play a man's love interest, who was being played by a 55-year old man.
In 1997, (almost) 34-year old Mike Myers was cast alongside female lead Elizabeth Hurley, who was (almost) 33-years old a the time. International Man of Mystery was a solid hit and thus two years later we had Austin Powers: The Spy Who Shagged Me. Myers was now 36 years old, but his love interest was now 29-year old Heather Graham. That film was a massive smash hit, so three years later we got Austin Powers: Goldmember. In this third picture, a now-39 year old Mike Myers was paired with 20-year old Beyonce Knowles. So here's the fun question: Would Mike Myers' love interest in Wayne's World, 25-years old in 1992 but 35-years old in 2002, have been rejected for being too old to play Austin Powers's love interest in the third go-around right as Myers himself was nearing 40-years old?
Considering the story of how Maggie Gyllenhaal was told at the age of 37 that she was too old to play a love interest to a 55-year old male lead, I think we all know the answer. This is an industry where Keira Knightley was just under/over 18 years old before she was filming "love interest" roles with adult male actors in the likes of Pirates of the Caribbean: Curse of the Black Pearl and Love Actually. Obviously this would be less of an issue for Hathaway and other actresses over the age of 25-years old if there were more female-centric vehicles alongside the male-driven ones. If the male-centric vehicles want to cast female leads that are barely in their twenties, by all means go for it if there are also a variety of female-centric projects of all respective age ranges for actresses to choose from as well.
Most rapes--particularly child sexual abuse-- are unreported
Sky is blue.
Stating a lot of rapes going unreported does not dispute my statement of "most reported rapes are false." It's like saying "sky is blue." It's true but useless.
I think if she accused SOMEBODY (with a name) that she has been raped when she was younger, I would be skeptical about it. (I won't say I don't believe it, I am saying I would be skeptical about it.) It looks like she said she has been raped and sexually molested when she was a child, unless she is mentally ill, I see no reasons to lie about that.
In real life, I know quite a few women lie about being pregnant. This particular woman said she was pregnant and two years later, she was still pregnant. lol There are drama queens in real life, but I doubt Fonda is lying in this case. It is not like she accused of anybody of doing this to her. She just said she was a victim of rape and child abuse.
She claimed some serious crimes being committed. She needs to provide evidence to prove that. Until then, I'd take her words as BS.
It also says 70% of rapes are committed by people known to the victims. So, let's be generous and call it 50%, 155 cases the victims knew who did it.
Some of the cases referred to prosecutors would include the convictions, and convictions would include incarcerations. Let's again be generous and combine all of them together: 11+7+6 =24.
There you go, at the low estimate, 85% of reported rapes are either false or can't be proven (24/155).
It also says 70% of rapes are committed by people known to the victims. So, let's be generous and call it 50%, 155 cases the victims knew who did it.
Some of the cases referred to prosecutors would include the convictions, and convictions would include incarcerations. Let's again be generous and combine all of them together: 11+7+6 =24.
There you go, at the low estimate, 85% of reported rapes are either false or can't be proven (24/155).
That's an astonishingly high number!
I don't have any links/websites/studies that I can use for a counter argument.
If you say most rape claims are fake based on the above, I say, "well, you got a point there."
How about this then? If she has been raped, I wish she uses her celebrity status to do something good this time. This has been the only point I was making anyway.
I don't have any links/websites/studies that I can use for a counter argument.
If you say most rape claims are fake based on the above, I say, "well, you got a point there."
How about this then? If she has been raped, I wish she uses her celebrity status to do something good this time. This has been the only point I was making anyway.
Yes? No?
I think she should use her "celebrity" status to encourage true victims to speak up and to break the social taboo that being raped is somehow shameful to women and men.
I don't think she or anybody should make unsubstantiated claims on serious crimes like this, particularly rape.
Keep in mind both men and women are being sexually assault at roughly the same rate.
It also says 70% of rapes are committed by people known to the victims. So, let's be generous and call it 50%, 155 cases the victims knew who did it.
Some of the cases referred to prosecutors would include the convictions, and convictions would include incarcerations. Let's again be generous and combine all of them together: 11+7+6 =24.
There you go, at the low estimate, 85% of reported rapes are either false or can't be proven (24/155).
That's an astonishingly high number!
What? The lack of convictions doesn't mean they are necessarily false, just that they are hard to prove, especially in he said/she said situations.
Call me skeptical. I think she's just feeling like she hasn't had enough attention lately. The real shame is that there have been so many fake claims lately, that the real victims of damaging, life-altering sexual assault are cast under a pall of suspicion. I think every single woman found guilty of making up fake claims should be subject to serious penalties and/or jail time.
She played her last card in the late eighties with her exercise vids and the role of a lifetime with her father (On Golden Pond) Henry. Since then... divorced Turner, made a few forgettable movies. I'd agree, she's trying to get some press. Seems to be working.
I don't care if she wants to spill her guts about every bad thing that ever happened to her, it's sad that people abuse kids! This isn't info that does me any good so it's basically gossip. I'm not buying the "I thought it was my fault" on anything but childhood abuse though, as an adult she has more than proved herself to be an advocate for whatever she wanted. If she got fired for not sleeping with someone she could have made a stink at the time, maybe she did and I just don't remember. That tactic works because so many people are willing to hwore themselves out for fame, but you have choices and she made one so that's good.
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