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Bottom line, there was spying on the Trump campaign by the Obama administration as alleged or there wasn't. The press and a thorough congressional investigation need to ferret out the truth, wherever it leads.
IF there is evidence, then yes. But no, the country does not have to chase every lie Trump creates as a distraction to his own problems if there is no evidence of such a thing.
Trump is unhinged. I didnt vote for him or HC, but had hopes for some conservative leadership and action from Trump. But each day it appears more and more as if we have elected a mentally unhinged person to run our country.
Whether Clapper is lying about it or not, if there was a FISA wiretap in place, the wiretap would not be a felony.
if the fisa court approved the wiretap, then you are right no felony. however it has been noted that the fisa court TURNED DOWN the obama request, TWICE. so if there was a wiretap, then it is a felony.
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This has now been sourced and investigated. No proof whatsoever. Let's have a full investigation. If Trump tweeted this crap based on Heat Street and Breitbart, he's toast and let's hope he is prosecuted and impeached.
No doubt you'll make up a story about the Russians colluding with Trump. All the while ignoring the fact that hillary colluded with the DNC to influence an election.
Two things we know about the left. They are hypocrites and they lost.
Get over it.
IF there is evidence, then yes. But no, the country does not have to chase every lie Trump creates as a distraction to his own problems if there is no evidence of such a thing.
Trump is unhinged. I didnt vote for him or HC, but had hopes for some conservative leadership and action from Trump. But each day it appears more and more as if we have elected a mentally unhinged person to run our country.
Unhinged? The media is unhinged. Trump is simply fighting back. He HAD to do this: the media was slowly drip-drip-drip trying to destroy him and his cabinet. He realized he'll need to fight back and that means breaking an unwritten rule where Presidents pretty much leave previous Presidents alone, so be it.
I think Trump is a very, very smart President. True, sometimes he's a bit too fast in tweeting but the media is the real unhinged party here.
Bottom line, there was spying on the Trump campaign by the Obama administration as alleged or there wasn't. The press and a thorough congressional investigation need to ferret out the truth, wherever it leads.
Why should congress spend time and money to pander to the demented demands of a crazy person? There is NO evidence that Obama was somehow involved in some effort to wiretap Trump, where does congress go with an investigation like that? WTF is wrong with simply asking Trump why he doesn't demand to see the warrant as is his right? Why isn't he telling us what evidence he relied on to make such an outrageous allegation.?
At this point it looks like Trump allies are trying to turn this thing into some kind of logical fallacy where Obama is going to be tasked with proving something for which there is absolutely no evidence he ever did.
First of all, Wapo and NYT are not extreme leftist. That's just dumb. They're the most well-regarded papers in the world, and NYT holds the record for Pulitzer prizes.
Aside from that, BBC, Reuters, and AP are generally considered the most neutral.
I read Reuters news and the BBC--they're both available free, online. I think Reuters is very middle of the road. If I want to watch a bit to the left, I'll watch some CNN on tv. The right wingers should try Reuters--maybe seeing middle of the road could bring us all together. Some right wingers watch far right tv shows that most people never even heard of, apparently. Same as Breithart is far right and I had never even heard of it.
Seems like Trump is being delusion on weekends when he's by himself in Florida, away from his advisers. And he watches Breithart--whatever it is, some extreme right crazy news. He's not doing himself any favors watching that stuff.
So why did Obama's DOJ file FISA requests in June and October to monitor Trump? That has been confirmed by the BBC. If you are correct, then the Obama admin already had the communications with the Russians, and was using FISA as a ruse to wiretap a political opponent.
You keep assuming that politics is/was the reason for the (so far) alleged wiretap.
Maybe it wasn't politics at all. Maybe it was a crime they were pursuing. For instance - and this is a guess on my part - illegal cash transfers.
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