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Oh please - enough drama about Trump - Obama how many times told us that he never knew about it and that he found out about it just like us - Pelosi......
They had plenty of GOOD REASONS to tap his lines!!!
Wow, after the first sentence you actually made no sense what so ever. Relax............
I'm quite relaxed, thank you very much.
I made sense to anyone who does not have their head in the sand ...anyone who does not rely on MSNBC, CNN and the rest of the so-called "mainstream" media who put out fake stories about Trump.
There were two warrants issued (to tap into Trump's server) "The second warrant, which went right at the [Trump] campaign computer, was the electronic equivalent of Watergate." — Newt Gingrich
I've never seen a more confident and well-researched political analyst than Newt Gingrich.
He's been right all along, all throughout the campaign he was the voice of reason.
Imagine if Newt Gingrich was the Press Secretary, he'd absolutely own them.
As if I'm the only one saying this? Where are you getting your news from, the purveyors of fake news and propaganda?
Obama has set up his "shadow government" to take down Trump. This isn't speculation or some conspiracy theory, but fact. It's been reported from many sources (except the MSM which won't touch anything harmful to Obama).
Furthermore, Obama's past is well known. His history as a radical Leftist, his hatred for America, and his associations with people who were intent on the overthrow of the US Government, are no secret, but were ignored by the MSM.
Trump has no back-up and neither do you on the bolded part.
If you believe this, you are totally uniformed. Get your head out of the sand. Trump didn't make the accusation in a vacuum, but had been informed. He had been told of the FISA warrant and other warrant targeting his server.
At this late date (nearly a week after Trump tweeted) there has been plenty of investigative reporting which confirms what Trump learned, that his servers had been "tapped," and that the campaign server was also targeted.
The denial by the anti-Trumpers is completely irrational, because the evidence is clear. It's all out there now. You might as well be denying that the sun rises in the east.
The denial by the anti-Trumpers is completely irrational, because the evidence is clear. It's all out there now. You might as well be denying that the sun rises in the east.
There is no evidence..not a bit. You are acting like a 9/11 truther. I hope that this is just a way for you to pass time and that you are not taking it seriously
Trump's backup comes from the GOP and others in West Wing who are willing to bend over backwards and enable Trump in his lies and abuse of executive power...
No, the backup comes from those who are out there doing the investigative reporting who have found that the FISA requests are fact. One was granted, which targeted Trumps server. But another warrant was also issued which targeted the campaign server ...tapping directly into campaign communications. To assume that Obama had nothing to do with this, or didn't know about it, is ludicrous.
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The press conference today was perfectly awful example of how Spicer has enabled Trump's lies from the moment he stepped behind the podium...
Saying that Trump agreed that past employment numbers were false and today's were true and then LAUGHING just proves he knows he is working for a pathalogical liar...
And the fact that plenty of people in the press corps laughed along with him just made them complicite in the big lie being told the American people...
Trumpsters won't believe the truth about Trump's scam on those who voted for him--and the rest of us...
He won't take responsibility for the destruction of the ACA and a terrible plan GOP is trying to foist on Americans...
I guess you forgot about Obama's scam, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan." "Families will save on average $2,500 per year." Sound familiar?
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His ties to Russia and other unscrupulous people within in Cabinet are going to come out...
There have been zero ties to Russia found. Not one.
Which of his Cabinet people are "unscrupulous?" Name them and explain why you think they are unscrupulous.
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Flynn's ties to Turkey during the campaign and transition--when he advocated for the expulsion of the Turkish clergyman Erdogan wants to try and kill was particularly egregious since Flynn could have made sure that man was repatriated to Turkey if he had not been forced to resign...
Flynn is old news and he's out. You may have forgotten that Obama's team went through some initial shake ups too. Van Jones got the boot early on, for example. These things happen.
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We now have evidence w/the letter from Rep Cummings to Pence this fall about Flynn's ties to Turkey and then Pence coming on Fox News and lying about knowing anything about Flynn's lobbyist efforts today that Pence is just as good a liar as Trump is....and likely he did know about Flynn's telephone conversations w/Russian ambassador about sanctions...he just lied about NOT knowing so Trump could use Flynn lying to Pence as a way to force him out...when it was the Turkish connection being revealed they were much more afraid of...
Elijah Cummings is an idiot and a hardcore Leftist and Obama & Clinton surrogate. He's also a liar. Flynn only recently registered as a foreign agent, not before or during the campaign.
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We have Tillerson admitting he didn't even know the Mexican foreign minister was in town and meeting with Kushner and two other West Wing officials....THAT just demeans the State Dept's role in foreign policy...
Not so much ...but Hillary Clinton certainly did. But you were probably fine with her, right?
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And it happened within the Trump people...
They are gutting this government from the inside and destroying the Dept of State, the EPA, and other agencies....
Some of this government needs to be gutted. Especially the EPA, the IRS and a few other agencies.
Colin Powell’s former Chief of Staff Col. Lawrence Wilkerson (ret.), said that Britain’s MI6 secret spy agency or their GCHQ bugging center may have been responsible for wiretapping Donald Trump. To the question, "What do you make of Trump’s allegations?" Col. Wilkerson answered
"Well, I’m certainly not one, Paul, to defend HMS Trump and that whole entourage of people, but I will paint you a hypothetical here. There are a number of events that have occurred in the last 96 hours or so that lead me to believe that maybe even the Democratic party—whatever element of it—approached John Brennan at the CIA, maybe even the former president of the United States. And John Brennan, not wanting his fingerprints to be on anything, went to his colleague in London GCHQ, MI6, and essentially said, ‘Give me anything you’ve got.’ And he got something and he turned it over to the DNC or to someone like that. And what he got was GHCQ MI6’s tapes of conversations of the Trump administration, perhaps even the President himself. It’s really kind of strange, at least to me, they let the head of that organization [GCHQ] go, fired him about the same time this was brewing up. So I’m not one to defend Trump, but in this case he might be right. It’s just that it wasn’t the FBI. Comey’s right, he wasn’t wire-tapping anybody, it was John Brennan, at the CIA."
So the Head of Britain's GCHQ which is the British equivalent of the NSA has suddenly and unexpectedly resigned aged 51 after only two years in the job, and his resignation occurrs at the same time as the Trump allegations become public.
Not sure where you got the Wilkerson quote but I quickly skimmed the articles you linked and didn't notice a reference to the DNC. Did I miss it? And what does the "or someONE like that" mean? A person? An organization? Lots of alphabet agencies in DC - DNC, FBI, DIA, CIA.
His speculation about the GHCQ chief resignation is a tad odd. The articles you attach only note the resignation (BBC) or when speculating attach it to FLYNN (per the headline of the Macedonian press article but the text was truncated and not readable).
Lots of issues, though. Maybe I'll make an attempt shortly to discuss some using what *could* be fact but skip any flamboyant allegations.
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