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Old 03-04-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Originally Posted by Grizzmeister View Post
What will be the repercussions for Trump if he carelessly exposed an ongoing FBI investigation with his reckless tweets?
Donald Trump is writhing around in the dirt like a big fat orange slug having salt poured on his slimy body.


He is trying to deflect away from what information will be coming out from the investigations into his team's Russian contacts. His accusations are an interference with the FBI's investigation and indicate his GUILT.

 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:24 AM
 
Location: Crooklyn, New York
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What will be the repercussions for Trump if he carelessly exposed an ongoing FBI investigation with his reckless tweets?
So is this an admission that there are transcripts? If so, let's get Trump in front of Congress and put him under oath?
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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But there's no way to know of the "frequency and volume of communications" without already having a tap in place.
We're getting into a factually murky area here, the NSA and other agencies keep a lid on what is publicly known about their capabilities.

But the NSA does monitor internet traffic, especially traffic to and from certain nations, and their monitoring has been declared legal. 5 Things To Know About The NSA's Surveillance Activities : Parallels : NPR
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:31 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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Trump is nyt and wapoo mode. His twitter account is his side of MSM. Now everyone will be talking about it.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:31 AM
 
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WaPo tries very hard to downplay Trump's tweets -

"President Trump on Saturday angrily accused former president Barack Obama of orchestrating a “Nixon/Watergate” plot to tap the phones at his Trump Tower headquarters last fall in the run-up to the election.

Citing no evidence to support his explosive allegation, Trump said in a series of five tweets sent Saturday morning that Obama was “wire tapping” his New York offices before the election in a move he compared to McCarthyism. “Bad (or sick) guy!” he said of his predecessor, adding that the surveillance resulted in “nothing found.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.7988c9d1dcd7

But this isn't a new story and WaPo knows it. From Heatstreet, published Nov 7,2016 -

"Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia." https://heatst.com/world/exclusive-f...ies-to-russia/

David French in the National Review also has an article out January 11, 2017 The Trump 'Kompromat' Story -- It's All Disturbing | National Review

Obama did wiretap Trump
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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What will be the repercussions for Trump if he carelessly exposed an ongoing FBI investigation with his reckless tweets?
At this point, I think that's the least of his worries.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:33 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Six (6) yes six Trump campaign advisors met with the Russians. Trump is confused because he believed that no one would ever find out about his team's connections an ties to the Russians. So now he decides that the ONLY way that these covert meetings could have been found out is due to President Obama wiretapping him.


Trump is a flippin' idiot. He is going down in flames and wants to blame anyone that he can.
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:33 AM
 
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Sitting President Donald J. Trump has made a very serious accusation against his predecessor. At this point he has to be aggressively challenged to determine what information he's basing his accusation on. Which agency does he contend Obama used to spy on him, the CIA, FBI or NSA.
Its 9:30 MST and the investigation by the media has already connected the dots and as President , Mr. Trump has his information. This could be yet anther Legal and tactical mistake that will affect the credibility of the Democratic credibility.


Anther question is how much of this information has been leaked directly to the DNC and Pedesta?
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:34 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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1. June 2016: FISA request. The Obama administration files a request with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA) to monitor communications involving Donald Trump and several advisers. The request, uncharacteristically, is denied.

2. July: Russia joke. Wikileaks releases emails from the Democratic National Committee that show an effort to prevent Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) from winning the presidential nomination. In a press conference, Donald Trump refers to Hillary Clinton’s own missing emails, joking: “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 e-mails that are missing.” That remark becomes the basis for accusations by Clinton and the media that Trump invited further hacking.

3. October: Podesta emails. In October, Wikileaks releases the emails of Clinton campaign chair John Podesta, rolling out batches every day until the election, creating new mini-scandals. The Clinton campaign blames Trump and the Russians.

4. October: FISA request. The Obama administration submits a new, narrow request to the FISA court, now focused on a computer server in Trump Tower suspected of links to Russian banks. No evidence is found — but the wiretaps continue, ostensibly for national security reasons, Andrew McCarthy at National Review later notes. The Obama administration has monitored an opposing presidential campaign and is now monitoring communications from the Trump administration, using the high-tech surveillance powers of the federal intelligence services.

5. January 2017: Buzzfeed/CNN dossier. Buzzfeed releases, and CNN reports, a supposed intelligence “dossier” compiled by a foreign former spy. It purports to show continuous contact between Russia and the Trump campaign, and says that the Russians have compromising information about Trump. None of the allegations can be verified and some are proven false. Several media outlets claim that they had been aware of the dossier for months and that it had been circulating in Washington.

6. January: Obama expands NSA sharing. As Michael Walsh later notes, and as the New York Times reports, the outgoing Obama administration “expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections.” The new powers, and reduced protections, could make it easier for intelligence on private citizens to be circulated improperly or leaked.

7. January: Times report. The New York Times reports, on the eve of Inauguration Day, that several agencies — the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), the National Security Agency (NSA) and the Treasury Department are monitoring several associates of the Trump campaign suspected of Russian ties. Other news outlets also report the existence of “a multi-agency working group to coordinate investigations across the government,” though it is unclear how they found out, since the investigations would have been secret and involved classified information.

8. February: Mike Flynn scandal. Reports emerge that the FBI intercepted a conversation in 2016 between future National Security Adviser Michael Flynn — then a private citizen — and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. The intercept supposedly was part of routine spying on the ambassador, not monitoring of the Trump campaign. The FBI transcripts reportedly show the two discussing Obama’s newly-imposed sanctions on Russia, though Flynn earlier denied discussing them. Sally Yates, whom Trump would later fire as acting Attorney General for insubordination, is involved in the investigation. In the end, Flynn resigns over having misled Vice President Mike Pence (perhaps inadvertently) about the content of the conversation.

9. February: Times claims extensive Russian contacts. The New York Times cites “four current and former American officials” in reporting that the Trump campaign had “repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials. The Trump campaign denies the claims — and the Times admits that there is “no evidence” of coordination between the campaign and the Russians. The White House and some congressional Republicans begin to raise questions about illegal intelligence leaks.

10. March: the Washington Post targets Jeff Sessions. The Washington Post reports that Attorney General Jeff Sessions had contact twice with the Russian ambassador during the campaign — once at a Heritage Foundation event and once at a meeting in Sessions’s Senate office. The Post suggests that the two meetings contradict Sessions’s testimony at his confirmation hearings that he had no contacts with the Russians, though in context (not presented by the Post) it was clear he meant in his capacity as a campaign surrogate, and that he was responding to claims in the “dossier” of ongoing contacts. The New York Times, in covering the story, adds that the Obama White House “rushed to preserve” intelligence related to alleged Russian links with the Trump campaign. By “preserve” it really means “disseminate”: officials spread evidence throughout other government agencies “to leave a clear trail of intelligence for government investigators” and perhaps the media as well.








Ok on Jan. 11th the story broke, about the October order to monitor Trumps campaigns communications, but FAKEstream News failed to pick it up.

Obama & FISA: Trump Wiretap May Have Been Sought | National Review
 
Old 03-04-2017, 09:35 AM
 
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Six (6) yes six Trump campaign advisors met with the Russians. Trump is confused because he believed that no one would ever find out about his team's connections an ties to the Russians. So now he decides that the ONLY way that these covert meetings could have been found out is due to President Obama wiretapping him.


Trump is a flippin' idiot. He is going down in flames and wants to blame anyone that he can.
I give him 6 months...max.
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