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Old 03-06-2017, 01:53 PM
 
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Makes you think twice about deregulating businesses.
Sometimes it's the regulations that prevent the little guys from competing against such giant corporations.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:01 PM
 
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Well, I mean, it's Tysons chicken. I stopped eating that brand and those generic brands (like butterball) years ago. Full of GMO chickens and the people working at the factories don't give a crap.
well now i dont think it is legal to sell chicken meat that has been modified, which kind of blows a massive hole in your narrative of GMO chickens ....


sure traditional selective breeding has resulted in the doubling of average chicken sizes, but lets not forget that metric is true only when considering a few breds....
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:14 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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well now i dont think it is legal to sell chicken meat that has been modified, which kind of blows a massive hole in your narrative of GMO chickens ....


sure traditional selective breeding has resulted in the doubling of average chicken sizes, but lets not forget that metric is true only when considering a few breds....
???

It's not a narrative...it's a fact. Chickens eat GMO modified feed such as corn, seeds, etc

Genetically Modified Organism (GMO) Use in the Chicken Industry - The National Chicken Council

Why do you think they sell "Organic" chickens and foods?

GMO Facts | Whole Foods Market


There are also several documentaries about this on YouTube and Netflix. I suggest you educate yourself.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:25 PM
 
Location: WY
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Well, I mean, it's Tysons chicken. I stopped eating that brand and those generic brands (like butterball) years ago. Full of GMO chickens and the people working at the factories don't give a crap.
I used to live in Lincoln County. Beautiful area. From the article:

The facility in Tennessee's Lincoln County has been placed under quarantine, along with approximately 30 other poultry farms within a 6.2-mile (10 km) radius of the site, the state said. Other flocks in the quarantined area are being tested, it added.

I also stopped eating Tyson chicken years ago. I've seen (and smelled) these chicken plants up close. I believe that most of these chickens get sent to the Tyson plant in Shelbyville (about an hour away). The Shelyville Tyson plant was heavily fined years ago for knowingly hiring AND smuggling illegals. The town was also inundated with refugees a number of years ago, with the end result being discord with the local rural (primarily farming) population. The Tyson plant is filled with refugees, illegals and white trash high school drop-outs. Wouldn't touch one of their chickens with a 10 foot pole.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:38 PM
 
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Here's a feature about chicken production from 1948 - 2005 (they even mention climate change
further down in the link).

How Did Modern Chickens Get So Damn Big? | First We Feast
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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This is one reason I go to the butcher who buys their meat locally. The quality of the meat is much better then big box stores. I would be watching those chicken nuggets you find at fast food and frozen processed chicken meals you find in the freezer of stores. The U S is sending chickens to china where processing them is completed and then sent back for sale. I am not trusting that considering our sometimes strained relations and you could knock off a lot of people selling nuggets 10 for 1.49.

I am good shape for beef my neighbor raises cattle and sells them to my butcher.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:43 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Here's a feature about chicken production from 1948 - 2005 (they even mention climate change
further down in the link).

How Did Modern Chickens Get So Damn Big? | First We Feast
yeah, pretty amazing.

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Additionally, a modern chicken farmer can now take a day-old chick and grow a five-pound broiler in just six weeks—less than half the time it would have taken 50 years ago.
btw, this is hardly a Tyson chicken-specific problem. doesn't anyone remember all the turkeys and other birds they had to slaughter just a couple years back due to bird flu?
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:55 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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We will be hearing and dealing with a lot more of this kind of problem due to lax enforcement/non-existent regulations under the Trump Dept of Ag.
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Old 03-06-2017, 02:57 PM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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I really believe most of the problem is because of living conditions for the chickens. Cramming thousands of chickens together in a large building where they stand wing to wing in their own waste, no fresh air, no windows, causing the ammonia smell to be very strong. It makes sense how illness would spread. It should be illegal to raise the animals this way.

I will try to look up the video I watched showing these type of conditions.
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Old 03-06-2017, 03:03 PM
 
Location: London
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Uhmmm....they aren't persisting because of "something". Once a flock is infected these things just stick around being passed from bird to bird. Basically once found there is only one solution. Destruction of the flock. And the latest one has a low transmission rate to humans.....but still bad enough to kill lots of folks. The concern right now is more about mutations where it's more contagious.

Like this last flu that hit my work. Went though my company with a 80% infection rate. If it mutates to be more like that, millions will die rapidly.
Yep...I remember when swine flu was a thing. In my office of 20, I was one of the only 4 people who went unscathed.
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