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Old 03-07-2017, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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I'm guessing only a tiny percentage of those could afford to pay the ACA deductibles.

It's like loaning a poor person a car that requires fuel costing $500 a gallon. It doesn't really help them.
These would be people who already have some sort of coverage and are paying the premiums and deductibles. About half are Medicaid. S&P just released an estimate of 10 million who lose coverage, but did not include any losses by people who are dropped by employers who no longer would have to cover them and could not afford the premiums in the market. Some estimates coming in are as high as 24 million when those people are factored in. As previously mentioned the costs and loss of insurance will fall hardest on people over 50 - about the time when you start needing it most.

 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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What exactly is this bill supposed to fix?

Changing things, just for the sake of changing them is rarely a good idea.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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What exactly is this bill supposed to fix?

Changing things, just for the sake of changing them is rarely a good idea.
Getting rid of Medicaid seems to be the primary, if hidden, objective.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:26 PM
 
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What exactly is this bill supposed to fix?

Changing things, just for the sake of changing them is rarely a good idea.
They need to let their base think they did something to fulfill their oft-repeated promise to destroy Obamacare. So they will tear apart the ACA, leave in its place something that is worse and covers less people, but at least they can say they did something. And that's all that matters. Until their base realizes how badly they were screwed by the GOP.

I really don't see this going anywhere. The GOP is pretty stupid at the moment, but even they aren't THIS stupid.

Or are they?
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Originally Posted by JAMS14 View Post
They need to let their base think they did something to fulfill their oft-repeated promise to destroy Obamacare. So they will tear apart the ACA, leave in its place something that is worse and covers less people, but at least they can say they did something. And that's all that matters. Until their base realizes how badly they were screwed by the GOP.

I really don't see this going anywhere. The GOP is pretty stupid at the moment, but even they aren't THIS stupid.

Or are they?
Sure seems like they want to do something, anything, after 8 years of saying they'll repeal it.

Conservatives have nicknamed it "RINOcare"

Trump supports it of course, after admitting he didn't have a clue about healthcare.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Sure seems like they want to do something, anything, after 8 years of saying they'll repeal it.

Conservatives have nicknamed it "RINOcare"

Trump supports it of course, after admitting he didn't have a clue about healthcare.
RinoCare, haha!
Trump's support seems tepid at best. Our wonderful health plan - let's negotiate.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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All it does is shift the burden onto the states. Which is why several Repub Senators will not vote for it.
 
Old 03-07-2017, 03:51 PM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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It's a starting point...
 
Old 03-07-2017, 04:09 PM
 
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All it does is shift the burden onto the states. Which is why several Repub Senators will not vote for it.
It does, and why this can't run for long. States cannot fund the HC needs of their people. They simply don't have enough money, and cannot create it like the Feds. The HC costs for any state might be comparable to their entire state budget!
 
Old 03-07-2017, 04:33 PM
 
Location: SW Florida
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I will not be loosing my healthcare plan and neither will my daughter. Thank you for the exaggeration.
We don't plan on losing ours either. But we've always had it, taken on whatever expense we had to to make sure we were insured, even if it meant not buying something else that we didn't consider as essential. No assuming our healthcare should be free around here.
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