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Don't think this plan is worth crowing about. Glad the Republicans are proud of themselves. Wait until they take on Medicare later in the year. It's going to be a fiasco....
I wasn't talking about success, or failure. I was talking about many test beds. Economic bases vary from state to state. Population demographics vary. Lifestyles vary. .... The only way to find out what works for various areas of the country is to try programs and program variables out.
Couldn't possibly be any worse than a centrally established, one-size fits all solution, that is dependent on interlocking pieces. Like the stacking block game. Remove one piece and the whole tack collapses.
This is a major problem with dialog. We all prejudge, presume and do not listen.
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I would not assume that just because they were successful in Massachusetts that this will work in the poor states like Alabama and Kentucky,
Yes Dems created this disaster and it hurt many Americans. Democrats paid a price though, thanks to Obamacare among other things "you got Trump". That's what happens when you hurt so many and ignore them when they tell you their getting financially killed with the premiums. I've even seen someone say "pay it and shut up". Yea, they got their subsidy and that's all they cared about.
The only people who support it is people getting the welfare subsidy.
Only 26 Percent Of Americans Support Full Repeal Of Obamacare, Poll Finds
But the Kaiser survey indicates that there's been a decline in the percentage of Republicans who want to see the law repealed just since October. In that month, 69 percent of GOPers said they favored repealing the entire law. A month later, once it was clear that the GOP would be in control of the health care debate, just 52 percent of Republicans said the law should be repealed.
Similarly, in October, just 11 percent of Republicans said they wanted the law scaled back but not eliminated. In November, that percentage increased to 24 percent.
Health care is not easy and the problem is, you only have one body. We offer public schooling but not health care? Stupid. I think a basic level of health care should be available to all. But after seven years of screaming, Republicans have to deliver something and the ironic thing is we are paying for the health coverage of the people creating it. While they are calling assorted demographics "takers" we are paying for them. I fully expect the next four years to be as ugly and nasty as it gets and I just want Republicans to cram as much right wingery through until the country can't stand it. They've been running on opposing health care for years so now, let them do what they want, no matter how many it hurts. And let them do the same to Medicare, it's the Republican way.
Good point, let the GOP and congress and step up and go under the new health plan that they are proposing and drop off the federal plan,
Good point, let the GOP and congress and step up and go under the new health plan that they are proposing and drop off the federal plan,
That absolutely needs to happen. This feels a little like Christmas. I so look forward to watching Trump voters get to live their vote. Paul Ryan should do Medicare next! Put maximums on everything and privatize. Convert contributions into a health savings account and tell them when it's spent, they are on their own. This is all turning out so poetically.
I can live with whatever plays out. If I don't like it, I'll speak up. If you are talking premium support, that might actually work out well. Anyway, you presume way to much lady. Way too much.
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Will you need Xanax when Paul Ryan axes your Medicare?
This is a disaster in the making and nowhere close to a reform.... if passed, this is a effectively a noose around the Republicans neck. So long 2018 elections!
Waiting for the Trump supporters come out in droves to protest ....
I can live with whatever plays out. If I don't like it, I'll speak up. If you are talking premium support, that might actually work out well. Anyway, you presume way to much lady. Way too much.
"Premium support" is an euphemism for insurance dump. Remember why Medicare was created in the first place. No insurance company wanted to insure the elderly because they have a lot of health problems and medical costs. Imagining U.S. seniors in a world without Medicare
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When Medicare was created in 1965 over 50% of everyone 65 or older had no health insurance. Private insurance failed to meet their needs. Medicare, on the other hand, is a success. It increased the number of insured older adults to 95%. In 1972 Medicare coverage was extended to people with significant disabilities.
I wasn't talking about success, or failure. I was talking about many test beds. Economic bases vary from state to state. Population demographics vary. Lifestyles vary. .... The only way to find out what works for various areas of the country is to try programs and program variables out.
Couldn't possibly be any worse than a centrally established, one-size fits all solution, that is dependent on interlocking pieces. Like the stacking block game. Remove one piece and the whole tack collapses.
This is a major problem with dialog. We all prejudge, presume and do not listen.
Let some of those poorer states be the test beds, that will be an excellent test. Social security works quite well as a centralized system.
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