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Unfortunately for them, New Orleans apparently is dominated by a population that has no use for prominently located Confederate statues, with over 60 percent of the city's population African-American.
Cities clearly have control over their local monuments in the U.S., especially when located on public land.
Taking down statues that were put up people over 100 years ago because they no longer reflect your modern day ideals or perspective is what uneducated heathens do. By your rationale, the Roman Coloseum should be torn down.
Uneducated heathens, as shown repeatedly in this thread, misrepresent history and champion the defenders of slavery and the division of the American republic.
And there's a vast difference between a celebratory statue of minor significance and an architectural wonder, especially when the statue isn't being destroyed and is available for relocation to a museum or elsewhere, such as a Confederate section of a cemetery.
The NAACP's Atlanta chapter has called for the removal of the Confederate Memorial Carving at Stone Mountain. This is much more problematic given the carving's historic prominence and artistic merit, but it's located in a public park and ultimately subject to the public will.
If you are an African American, or someone else who views the Confederacy with disdain, it's easy to understand even how the Confederate Memorial Carving would cause great offense, especially when it dominates a great state park.
The Roman Colosseum is an architectural monument. Honoring Robert E Lee is just stupid. Honoring a dishonorable cause.
It's a monument to slavery. It's the place slaves were forced to battle to the death for the entertainment of the masses.
Robert E Lee was a key figure in reconciliation of the country. Perhaps if you were better at history, you'd understand.
Unfortunately for them, New Orleans apparently is dominated by a population that has no use for prominently located Confederate statues, with over 60 percent of the city's population African-American.
Cities clearly have control over their local monuments in the U.S., especially when located on public land.
Yep. the poll was directed at the folks on CD. I believe the courts have spoken on the subject so get on with it. Then everything will be OK.
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My mother's family comes from Cullman Alabama with many from Winston County.
Two family members died in Confederate prison. Several others were send to prison but survived. One direct great great great grandfather had his wife die and two children at the time adopted off while he was in a military prison camp. Rumor has it that after release he murdered the man who was the local Confederate draft coordinator (or whatever he would have been called). Many of them lost family farms and did not get them back following the end of the war.
Not every southerner supported the war or slavery.
The reason passed down in my family for refusing to fight in the Confederate army was because they felt slavery was a sin and that the war was to keep slavery.
The war may have meant different things to different people at the time, but my relatives believed it was about slavery.
My father's family were damn furaners at the time with no dog in the hunt.
I'm actually not sure how I feel about the issue. I can see valid arguments on both sides. If I was forced to vote one way or another, I guess I'd have to side with removing the statues, but it would come with much trepidation.
It's a monument to slavery. It's the place slaves were forced to battle to the death for the entertainment of the masses.
Robert E Lee was a key figure in reconciliation of the country. Perhaps if you were better at history, you'd understand.
Actually, the Colosseum is a ruin, and a monument of what used to be. Besides, after the fall of the Roman Empire, the people living there started hacking at it for stone. In a way, the Roman Colosseum already met kind of a demise.
Robert E. Lee got off lucky. Had he been tried as a traitor, things would have been different. Considering what he did, he should have been tried as a traitor. As for reconciliation, the only true reconciliation would have been this: The former Confederate states should have admitted that they were wrong. That is what it is. They were wrong. They started a war. They fired the first shot. They fired the first shot because they were desperate to keep and maintain slavery. Their way of life, cotton, antebellum mansions, it was based on buying and selling of human beings. It was based on white supremacy. William Tappan Thompson, the founder of the Savannah Morning News, said that the fight was to maintain white supremacy and slavery.
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As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[5]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG
The Confederate states started this, period. The CSA was at fault, period. You don't "reconcile" that. The guilty party must understand that.
Uneducated heathens, as shown repeatedly in this thread, misrepresent history and champion the defenders of slavery and the division of the American republic.
And there's a vast difference between a celebratory statue of minor significance and an architectural wonder, especially when the statue isn't being destroyed and is available for relocation to a museum or elsewhere, such as a Confederate section of a cemetery.
The NAACP's Atlanta chapter has called for the removal of the Confederate Memorial Carving at Stone Mountain. This is much more problematic given the carving's historic prominence and artistic merit, but it's located in a public park and ultimately subject to the public will.
If you are an African American, or someone else who views the Confederacy with disdain, it's easy to understand even how the Confederate Memorial Carving would cause great offense, especially when it dominates a great state park.
I personally think people take the slavery thing too personally. Most people have no clue what their ancestors were doing 150 years ago. Maybe they were being exploited, perhaps they were doing the exploiting. Who knows or who cares. Truth be told, if you actually dig deeper into history, very few of what our forefathers did would pass muster today. Our founders owned slaves, exploited child and immigrant labor, enslaved natives, butchered people, invaded neighboring countries without cause, polluted rivers, killed wildlife to the point of extinction, and broke peace treaties, yet its always slavery that draws the line for most people. I think this is a result of skimming through history books and reading history as if its a story with a specific narrative rather than reading history as a list of facts that actually happened.
The Stone Mountain carving is a good example. First off all, if you've ever been to their 4th of July show, the first thing you'll notice is its a huge celebration of Southern and American Heritage, yet out of the 200K or so people that show up maybe 2% are actually of southern heritage (black or white). The majority of the people that go to that show are from Iran, Guatemala, Brazil, etc. It doesn't seem to matter, they seem pretty gung ho over the whole thing.
But its an otherwise slippery slope. Just chucking a monument when it no longer represents your ideals means Mt Rushmore isn't safe, nor is the Washington Monument, Jefferson Memorial, the Crazy Horse memorial, or any of the millions of historical monuments and references that represents as past which 99.9% of the time doesn't mesh with modern progressives. Its mob rule by uneducated heathens.
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