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Old 03-07-2017, 11:35 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Bernie is no Joe Wilson.
That's a fact. He's more of a Maxine Waters.
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:59 PM
 
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Bernie needs to retire, he is delusional if he thinks the USA will become another socialist country.
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Old 03-08-2017, 12:01 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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When Obama was in Office Bernie was pretty quiet in spite of the constant lies.
Any politician knows, instinctively, that truth will never win him/her an election, that's because voters, subconsciously, demand lies, and not the truth.

If Trump had been truthful with his supporters, he never would have won!

If Sanders had been truthful with his supporters, he never would have gotten as far as he did!

Same with Hillary, or any politician!

Now, Goldwater went too far telling the truth, during his campaign, and look what happened to him!!!
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Old 03-08-2017, 01:01 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Apparently Bernie has no problem with Obamas lies.
Way to deflect. Good job!
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Old 03-08-2017, 02:05 AM
 
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Excellent response Bernie. Thank god there are some with a backbone in Congress, willing to correct the record when we have a president who cannot distinguish fact from fiction, whether deliberate or out of cluelessness.
Agreed, I have thought more in congress need to hold Trump accountable and tell the truth to Americans. But how long does this go on?
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:31 AM
 
Location: Richmond, VA
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And I guess you've all forgotten "I did not have sex with that woman".....
That was terrible. That President was also, if you recall, impeached. I think he should have been removed from office for that one, but that was not the judgment of Congress.

We can also go to "read my lips, no new taxes" and the arguable weapons of mass destruction. But those are history. The current President, who has well over 3-1/2 years left on his term, has a problem not only with substantive policy issues, but what appears to be a basic grasp on reality.

The other guys can't run again. Their legacy is exactly that. Let's discuss the President we have now, while there is still time to influence his behavior.
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:40 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The entire Obamacare sales pitch was a lie. It went on for years.
And they KNEW it and STILL kept lying to the American people. For years. That's truly unforgivable.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G790p0LcgbI
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Old 03-08-2017, 03:42 AM
 
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So where do we stand today?

Was Trump's condo wiretapped and if so, who did it?

Were 3-5 million votes illegally cast? Is anyone looking into it?

Is he still carrying on about 94 million out of work? Does he ever mention that over 88 million say they aren't interested in a job? Most are retired, some are disabled, others are students or home caring for family members.

Is he still boasting about his "massive landslide" victory?
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:03 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Me? I'm not in the Congress. Any kind of action is completely up to them. I asked what you think should be done-about the current President. The Congress is who would have to actually take any action, of course-not you, not me.

So your preference is for free pass? Or is that just what you believe will happen?

Note I didn't ask about the previous President here. "but...but...but...Obama" is a copout here. Should we bring up weapons of mass destruction? No-because a lie by a previous President is completely immaterial to this discussion. It is worth having that other discussion, but has no bearing on this thread.
Bush wasn't the liar on that. Clapper, while testifying to Congress, admitted he provided that info to Bush in the October 2002 NIE.

Clapper: "My fingerprints were on that national intelligence estimate, I was in the community then. That was 13 years ago. We have done many, many things to improve our processes, particularly with respect to national intelligence estimates, in order to prevent that from happening again. Whatever else you want to say about the intelligence community, it is a learning organization, and we do try to learn lessons.

It's a very difficult business and getting harder all the time. And there will be mistakes, but what we do try to do, as we did after the NIE from October 2002 and weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, was to learn from that, profit and make change."


CNN.com - Transcripts

And before that, in 1998, President Clinton stated Iraq had WMDs.

What I always found odd was that even after Clapper f'ed up on the assessment that Iraq had WMDs in 2002 when he was the Director of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency, Obama then promoted him to be his Director of National Intelligence.
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Old 03-08-2017, 04:06 AM
 
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That was terrible. That President was also, if you recall, impeached. I think he should have been removed from office for that one, but that was not the judgment of Congress.

We can also go to "read my lips, no new taxes" and the arguable weapons of mass destruction. But those are history. The current President, who has well over 3-1/2 years left on his term, has a problem not only with substantive policy issues, but what appears to be a basic grasp on reality.

The other guys can't run again. Their legacy is exactly that. Let's discuss the President we have now, while there is still time to influence his behavior.
Exactly. This is all in the past. Let the historians figure it out.

POTUS is either deliberately lying to us or doesn't know the difference.

In any case, anyone who can put two and two together isn't not buying it.

Even Trump's own staff doesn't believe what he says.

Pence is assuring European leaders that the U.S. will indeed by standing by international treaties and alliances. (Though how he would know is anybody's guess. He's established himself as being "out of the loop" in this WH.)

Secretary of State Tillerson is telling Mexican leaders that there will be no U.S. military operation.

Secretary of Defense Mattis is clear that the U.S. will not be taking anyone's oil.

His own Deputy Press Secretary Sanders is saying, "If" the wiretaps occurred, it would be a dreadful scandal.

"If?" What in the heck? "If?"
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