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It's not just Chaffetz or even Republicans. There seems to be a complete ignorance of just how out of reach good health insurance is to those who do not have it provided as part of their employment. Even with all the subsidies in ACA, there is simply not enough in most regular people's budget to pay for it much less the deductibles and copays. Trumpcare makes it even less affordable for most. It's over. The time for "Medicare for everyone" is upon us.
Yes.
Health Savings Accounts and tax deductions aren't going to work for a broad swath of Americans.
Those who can afford $1,000/month health insurance premiums, either own a business that is doing well and have already figured out a way to deduct this as a business expense, or work at a job that provides health insurance benefits and use HSAs to cover glasses, cough syrup and co-pays.
Nearly everyone who is not covered by Medicare, Medicaid, TriCare, or employee-subsidized health insurance will be uninsured.
Not having affordable insurance options available, stifles entrepreneurship, penalizes those working lower-wage jobs, and overloads our hospital Emergency Rooms. It's not a fair playing field for manufacturers competing with products from countries that have national health insurance.
We've tried to legislate health insurance affordability. We all agree. It doesn't work. Colossal failure. Huge, really.
It's not just Chaffetz or even Republicans. There seems to be a complete ignorance of just how out of reach good health insurance is to those who do not have it provided as part of their employment. Even with all the subsidies in ACA, there is simply not enough in most regular people's budget to pay for it much less the deductibles and copays. Trumpcare makes it even less affordable for most. It's over. The time for "Medicare for everyone" is upon us.
This.
Clueless lower upper class kid who grew up to be clueless middle upper class blowhard.
Health insurance for a couple is 2 Iphones per month. Then again I have a 7 year old slider with a cracked screen. I also pay per year what others pay per month for cell.
edit: Gothereasquick, well said.
Last edited by ottomobeale; 03-08-2017 at 05:08 AM..
Many could cut back on nearly everything outside of necessities and still not afford a policy. You are making $9.00 an hour. $360 a week. After taxes you are left with enough to pay your policy. How do you eat? Get to work?
Exactly.
The cost of health insurance premiums reported on this forum are shocking.
There is no way anyone even making $40,000/year is going to be able to pay $10,000 of that for health insurance premiums. Impossibility.
Chaffetz is a special breed of clueless. He said that people should perhaps opt against buying the latest iphone and use that money to buy health care....which would make sense if operations cost $100 and chemotherapy cost $50.
But operations can run in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS and lifesaving procedures like chemotherapy can run in the TENS OF THOUSANDS.
HENCE California Lt. Gov Gavin Newsom's tweet:
So perhaps Chaffetz should tell the truth and suggest to non-rich citizens that they should consider being homeless or not eating in order to afford health care because that's really the only alternative he and the GOP is offering.
#theydontcarewhetherweliveordie
#bighealthandbigpharmaownsthem
#MakeAmericaSICKAgain
Well if things cost hundreds of thousands for so many, unless they insure themselves, there isn't enough other people's money to pay for it all.
Chaffetz is a special breed of clueless. He said that people should perhaps opt against buying the latest iphone and use that money to buy health care....which would make sense if operations cost $100 and chemotherapy cost $50.
But operations can run in the HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS and lifesaving procedures like chemotherapy can run in the TENS OF THOUSANDS.
HENCE California Lt. Gov Gavin Newsom's tweet:
So perhaps Chaffetz should tell the truth and suggest to non-rich citizens that they should consider being homeless or not eating in order to afford health care because that's really the only alternative he and the GOP is offering.
#theydontcarewhetherweliveordie
#bighealthandbigpharmaownsthem
#MakeAmericaSICKAgain
Whoa, hold on. It was Obama who made the claim that you could buy a good health care plan for about what you pay for your cellphone bill.
People who have money watch every dollar, those who are poor squander what they have on iphones and starbucks. Then they expect free stuff.
Bankruptcy courts weren't put in place for the poor.
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