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Old 03-10-2017, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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So theft is ok if your thief is willing to steal less money than he could?

You wouldn't happen to be a masochist, would ya?
You can call taxes theft all you want, but it doesn't make it so. Just like I can try to call my Scion a Ferrari, but it's still a Scion.

Go to the Horn of Africa if you want a "stateless" society.

The simple ugly fact is that in a stateless society, wealth and income inequality would be even greater than they are now, because the lower 2/3rds of the income strata would be bled to death by tolls and user fees.
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:50 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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How is the money women pay to have the abortion accounted for in your scenario?


The woman pays the overhead for the abortion, not the taxpayers.
Any money the woman pays would be the equivalent of the SS income in my post. PP gets money from the government and the woman.
If they didn't get it all from the government then where would it come from?
If they didn't get it all from the woman, where would it come from?
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Old 03-10-2017, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Born & Raised DC > Carolinas > Seattle > Denver
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ZERO TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD GO TOWARDS ABORTION.

FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS ANY TAX FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO BE SPENT ON ABORTIONS.



The truth about PP straight from factcheck.org: Planned Parenthood


But conservatives will continue living in their bubble where they make up their own facts. I guess ignorance really is bliss.
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Old 03-10-2017, 07:04 AM
 
Location: Hiding from Antifa!
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ZERO TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD GO TOWARDS ABORTION.

FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS ANY TAX FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO BE SPENT ON ABORTIONS.



The truth about PP straight from factcheck.org: Planned Parenthood


But conservatives will continue living in their bubble where they make up their own facts. I guess ignorance really is bliss.
At some point in accounting, there is money coming in from different sources and at the same time money going out to different recipients. Are the abortion centers in a different building from the other services that PP offers? Do the women come into PP and if they decide to get a abortion, are they sent to another office? I don't think so! To say that federal tax dollars are never used for abortions is only possible with gimmickry in accounting.

Your link above only states the percentages of abortion services that PP provides, and the amount of money that it gets from Taxes versus other sources. It does not explain how it avoids mingling of funds for its services.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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ZERO TAX DOLLARS THAT FUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD GO TOWARDS ABORTION.

FEDERAL LAW PROHIBITS ANY TAX FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO BE SPENT ON ABORTIONS.


THE FEDERAL FUNDING PROVIDED TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD FREES UP FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES TO BE USED FOR THOUSANDS OF ABORTIONS EACH YEAR.

https://www.conservativereview.com/c...nthood-funding

It all goes into the same pot, INCLUDING MILLIONS SPENT FOR ABORTIONS.

"Here's your allowance, Jimmy. Now don't buy any candy."

"Okay, mommy, I promise."

Get the picture?
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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THE FEDERAL FUNDING PROVIDED TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD FREES UP FUNDING FROM OTHER SOURCES TO BE USED FOR THOUSANDS OF ABORTIONS EACH YEAR.

https://www.conservativereview.com/c...nthood-funding

It all goes into the same pot, INCLUDING MILLIONS SPENT FOR ABORTIONS.

"Here's your allowance, Jimmy. Now don't buy any candy."

"Okay, mommy, I promise."

Get the picture?
You think there is no accountability? They just put money in a cookie jar?? Please get educated, they bill per codes, and are audited regularly. Can there be fraud? Yes, but that is not normal practice. Like any medical facility, there can be fraud. Anyhow, it was proven at the congressional inquest, no fraud or misappropriations of money were found.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:09 AM
 
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Why are people not talking about some of the real issues and concerns?
Drug use, obesity, alcoholism, gluttony, etc.
Americans need to wise up, take responsibility for their bad decisions, and start living a proper manner.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Why are people not talking about some of the real issues and concerns?
Drug use, obesity, alcoholism, gluttony, etc.
Americans need to wise up, take responsibility for their bad decisions, and start living a proper manner.
I will only question obesity, some of that is a medical problem. Hormones -ovaries -thyroid etc. don't lump everyone together as if so easy.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Freedom means being in a position to make your own decision, plan your own course, without interference from anyone you didn't ask, trying to coerce you.

Responsibility comes as a direct result of being free. Your decision, and your course, are things you did to yourself without any influence from strangers. And it is up to you to change them if you don't like them. You are responsible.

People who are against personal responsibility, are against freedom.

People who want to force others to pay for their own abortions, by taking tax money for it that the others were forced to pay, are classic examples of this.
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Old 03-10-2017, 10:22 AM
 
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I will only question obesity, some of that is a medical problem. Hormones -ovaries -thyroid etc. don't lump everyone together as if so easy.
Come on...that's about less than 1% of the public. Quit making excuses
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