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Years ago, I heard from people in my profession in the UK, had to wait 9 months to a year to see a specialist. (For knee surgeries)
Get this all of you "free market freaks," there is a private health care system in the UK and doctors and hospitals can bid for your business if you don't want to wait. See link.
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The failure of socialized medicine.
The system is overwhelmed and not enough revenue to staff qualified personnel. When revenues are too low to pay for it all as promised, you wait & wait & wait & wait.
Taxes are already so great, even 100% tax will not pay for it.
But as doctors and nurses are being stretched to breaking point, figures show how the NHS is struggling.
Most of the problems have arisen because of the amount of people using the system.
The demands of an ageing population are also adding to the strain.
Years ago, I heard from people in my profession in the UK, had to wait 9 months to a year to see a specialist. (For knee surgeries)
Universal Healthcare is popular in most countries, what is different is levels of investment in health both in terms of current investment and past investment, social care provision, taxation levels, demographics as well as the increasing expense of new treatments.
In terms of the NHS it was under funded for many years but now is funded at around 9.9% GDP which is about average for the western world. It was announced yesterday that there would be an increase on social care spending to free up the NHS and many groups now think a rise in National Insuance or even an NHS Tax is the way forward.
It should be noted that despite the media horror stories, the NHS is very popular in the UK and the system is very efficient when compared to the high costs of other health care systems such as the US.
You can buy supplemental private health insurance in the UK if you don't want to wait. It costs a lot less than private health insurance here. The health care costs are also much lower there. Doctors don't get paid what they do here and drugs are much cheaper. Also some dental and vision is covered and when you pay for it, it is again--much cheaper than here. Our dental costs are ridiculous.
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What about the other 57 or so countries that operate a universal healthcare system? Most of which (including the UK), are ranked above the US in terms of healthcare provision.
A large part of that was due to the fact that it is one of the most inefficient systems in the world. Significantly contributing to the country's enormous national debt.
Might be good and all that, if you can wait long enough and be out of work.
Lol that's all you have? In the face of a huge mountain of evidence against your claim, you have nothing to say. Besides, who said we want to have an NHS here? If anything, the Sanders crowd wants what Canada has, not what the UK has.
Why is it that everyone in the UK is not flying to America for all the readily available healthcare? All the lies about having to wait forever for treatment except in good ol' America! Why isn't everyone in Europe clamoring to duplicate America's great healthcare system? Could it be that they consider it a massive failure?
Wait ...all those big European countries have citizens that live longer than Americans? How can that be?
Maybe socialized medicine is better than what we have!
Actually I have several friends from England who feel that England's health care system is a giant cluster... and yes they complained a lot about excessive waits. Typically what they said was it was a good place to be healthy or near death. Inbetween....not so much.
Actually I have several friends from England who feel that England's health care system is a giant cluster... and yes they complained a lot about excessive waits. Typically what they said was it was a good place to be healthy or near death. Inbetween....not so much.
If they can't afford to fly to the USA for expedited treatment, then they wouldn't be able to afford American healthcare anyway.
Actually I have several friends from England who feel that England's health care system is a giant cluster... and yes they complained a lot about excessive waits. Typically what they said was it was a good place to be healthy or near death. Inbetween....not so much.
That's cute. I used to live there, and it wasn't as your "friends" described. Oh well, they probably lived in a crappy area of the country, like how most of these horror stories where there's 1 or no insurance company in the ACA marketplace, happen to be an economically depressed area of a flyover state. In the UK, the general rule is services gradually degrade the further out from London you are
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