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Old 03-23-2017, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Northwest Peninsula
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Chuckles Suhumer was a Senator when Gorsuch was confirmed by a voice vote when Gorsuch was selected to the 10th Circuit court of Appeals in 2006. Not one democrat voice any concern.
Where was all Suhumer and other democratic objection at that time.....what a bunch of hypocrites.

His fellow Appeal Court justices on the 10th Circuit has sided with Gorsuch 97% of the time and the Supreme Court has sided with Gorsuch like 95% of the time.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:50 AM
 
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Resistance is futile...
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:53 AM
 
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Chuckles Suhumer was a Senator when Gorsuch was confirmed by a voice vote when Gorsuch was selected to the 10th Circuit court of Appeals in 2006. Not one democrat voice any concern.
Where was all Suhumer and other democratic objection at that time.....what a bunch of hypocrites.

His fellow Appeal Court justices on the 10th Circuit has sided with Gorsuch 97% of the time and the Supreme Court has sided with Gorsuch like 95% of the time.
Garland had bipartisan support too...until he was nominated for SCOTUS by Obama. So get outta here with that bull****
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:54 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Thumbs up Schumer vows to filibuster Gorsuch. Good idea?

Absolutely!

If it was a good idea for McConnell to block Garland, then it's AT LEAST as good an idea for Schumer to block Gorsuch.

At least Garland was nominated by a president elected by the people.

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Old 03-23-2017, 11:56 AM
 
Location: In The Thin Air
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But they wouldn't even hold a hearing for Garland. That's worse than filibustering
Garlands was probably more qualified too and pretty moderate.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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It's a delaying tactic. The filibuster will end once the stay on Trump's travel ban is upheld due to a tie in the Supreme Court.
The SC isn't set to hear the case UNLESS Donny appeals.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:57 AM
 
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But they wouldn't even hold a hearing for Garland. That's worse than filibustering
Chuckle Schumer and other democrats said at the end of the Bush term of office if a Supreme Court Justice vacancy would come up that he and other democrats would not confirm any Bush nomination and would wait until after the presidential election cycle.

He is what Chuckles had to say
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Sen. Chuck Schumer said in July 2007 that no George W. Bush nominee to the Supreme Court should be approved, except in extraordinary circumstances, 19 months before a new president was set to be inaugurated.
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Old 03-23-2017, 11:58 AM
 
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Absolutely!

If it was a good idea for McConnell to block Garland, then it's AT LEAST as good an idea for Schumer to block Gorsuch.

At least Garland was nominated by a president elected by the people.

I have no problem with it. It's the job of the senate to block and object.
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Old 03-23-2017, 12:00 PM
 
Location: Oregon, formerly Texas
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As much as I'm upset that this pick was stolen from Obama, not sure what the right call is. Might need the filibuster for a second nomination during his term, and I don't want the Dems to blow all their political capital on this issue now.
I agree with this. It was bad form for the Republicans to stonewall Merrick Garland & I found the argument that the next president should get to choose the supreme court nominee who died to be self serving & crass, regardless who won the election. Scalia died in February 2016. Obama still had a full 11 months left of being president at that point. The congress should have held hearings and given Garland a vote. It was not Clinton's nor Trump's vacancy to nominate; it was Obama's. If Garland failed to be confirmed, so be it, but the process should have been allowed to go forward.

That said, replacing Scalia with Gorsuch - who is a younger and seemingly more polite version of Scalia - is something that Democrats probably have to accept. It's when Ginsberg or Breyer die/retire... That's where I would expend my political capital at all costs, because that will ultimately change the court from what it's been for the last 30 years.
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Old 03-23-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Default Radicalized liberals threaten to filibuster Gorsuch BECAUSE he's conservative

Democrat Chuck Schumer has announced that he will vote No on Gorsuch (what a surprise), and will try to get Senate Democrats to invoke the 60-vote supermajority rule in an effort to block the confirmation vote.

He also threw in a hint of how radicalized he has become: The reason he will oppose Gorsuch, is not because the man is unqualified. In fact, Gorsuch's qualifications are immaculate. But Schumer will oppose him since he is conservative.

Schumer is trying to pretend this is a bad thing, and is somehow separate from the requirement that a judge follow the law and apply it impartially.

The fact is, the Constitution is conservative. It gives only limited powers to the Fed govt, and bans all others, reserving them to the states etc. And any judge or justice that wants to support it (there are some that don't, despite their oath) will be doing the work of small-govt conservatism, whether they like it or not.

Gorsuch himself has pointed out that judges don't have to personally agree with the law they are interpreting and enforcing. They merely have to enforce it as it says. Gorsuch said recently that any judge who finishes the year liking every decision he had handed down, probably isn't a very good judge. But a judge who finishes the year convinced that every decision he has handed down, conforms correctly to what the law meant as it is written, IS a good judge, even if he doesn't like some of the decisions he had to hand down.

Senator Schumer clearly disagrees with that. To him, a good judge is one who twists the law and injects liberal big-govt bias into his decisions where no existed in the law.

Radicalized liberals such as Schumer will lose. If the Republicans have to change Senate rules and eliminate the 60-vote supermajority requirement to bring the confirmation to the floor for a vote, they will do it.

We need more truly impartial judges like Gorsuch, on the Supreme Court as well as on lower courts.

It's not Gorsuch's fault the Constitution was written in a distinctly conservative way. But is is his responsibility to render decisions reflecting exactly what the law (incl. the Constitution) say and means.

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U.S. News & World News - Chicago Tribune

Schumer: Democrats will filibuster Gorsuch nomination

Ed O'Keefe, Robert Barnes and Ann E. Marinow
Washington Post

As the Senate Judiciary Committee was hearing from witnesses for and against Judge Neil Gorsuch, his Supreme Court nomination was delivered a critical blow: Senate Minority Leader Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., announced he would oppose Gorsuch and join other Democrats in filibustering the nomination, making it likely that the judge will struggle to find the support needed to clear a 60-vote procedural hurdle.

Gorsuch "was unable to sufficiently convince me that he'd be an independent check" on President Donald Trump, Schumer said in a Senate floor speech. Gorsuch is "not a neutral legal mind but someone with a deep-seated conservative ideology," Schumer added.
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