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Old 03-14-2017, 10:41 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Tipping point schmipping point. "Tipping point" is an invention, a fabrication, an armageddonism. It's nonsense. Nothing is going to tip, we aren't going to be suddenly washed down a vortex. The climate will slowly warm, the seas will slowly rise, conditions will gradually change, and we will figure out how to overcome every obstacle that comes up. That's what we do.


Tipping point is just another scare tactic used by Social Justice Eco-Fascists to implement this:


https://sustainabledevelopment.un.org/sdgs


Notice how gender inequality and no poverty and reduced inequalities are key parts of the mitigation mix. So if we steal money from people who have it, to give to people who claim they need it, Earth temperatures will drop. Utter madness, until you realize that climate change is a tool, not a goal. The real goals are the ones in the link.






Climate change science is all about leftist-collectivist control of men, and very little about control of climate.
I couldn't rep you again but you are 100% in line with my thinking. Most people haven't troubled to read teh Paris Accords. You're one of the few who knows there is a "gender equality" part of the so-called "climate treaty."
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Excellent post.

And the argument of the Eco-hallucinators can be summed up just about as simply as the highlighted two words. It's nothing but leftist hot air that, to the extent taken seriously, kills all individual freedom in it's path.
I agree. And that's why in countries where the people have an actual role selecting their leaders such as the U.S. when it gets this far a Reagan (Law of the Sea Treaty) and Trump (Paris Accords) gets elected.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:42 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Ok, I will play.

Place this in the hands of the states.
Sanctuary Cities. Where bovid ruminants can flatulate in peace.
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:42 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Under this administration, we'll be lucky to avoid a return to the glory days of lead in gasoline, acid rain and CFC pollution.
CFC pollution is another example of a huge whopper sold to the public. As a result A/C works less well, resulting in the consumption of more "greenhouse" gases to cool indoor temperatures to manageable levels. Ever been in NYC during a heat wave when the A/C fails or there's a blackout?
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Old 03-14-2017, 10:58 PM
 
Location: St Paul
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And instead focus efforts on something that can be acknowledged by pretty much everyone -- the need for clean air and water?

It just seems a whole lotta energy is being spent by different groups bickering over whether climate change exists, which takes the spotlight away from other more concrete and immediate issues.

Why not set that aside and focus on keeping air and water safe from excessive pollution?

For those who are skeptical of climate change, would you be on board with having a much narrower - albeit still nationwide - set of regulations that exist only to minimize pollution/contamination levels in the air and water supply?
No one denies climate change. The debate is whether human's are causing it & if so, to what degree?

I'm absolutely on board with regulations & laws to curb pollution/contamination. We currently have mnore than nearly any other country, how many more were you thinking to add?
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Old 03-15-2017, 10:49 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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[quote=Mason3000;47511288]No one denies climate change. The debate is whether human's are causing it & if so, to what degree?
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15.6" fell yesterday. Had March 14 been a month, it would have had more snow than November, January and February. Yesterday's fall was the 4th highest March daily snowfall and the 15th highest daily snowfall overall.

Since 2016, we've had the 12th highest October daily snow, 3rd highest November, 10th highest December, 2cd highest February and 3rd highest march.

As of 8am, we were up to 22.2". It has continued snowing since. Perhaps 30" from this storm?
I guess that's climate change. It's different from others. Now again, mild months also prove climate change.
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I'm absolutely on board with regulations & laws to curb pollution/contamination. We currently have more than nearly any other country, how many more were you thinking to add?
Their goal is to change the U.S. to a European model. In Europe "default mode" is that if something isn't expressly permitted it's forbidden. In the U.S. it's the other way around; unless prohibited it's permitted. The distinction is subtle but crucial.
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Old 03-16-2017, 03:15 PM
 
Location: London
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No one denies climate change. The debate is whether human's are causing it & if so, to what degree?

I'm absolutely on board with regulations & laws to curb pollution/contamination. We currently have mnore than nearly any other country, how many more were you thinking to add?
To add? None. I'm more concerned about eliminating some of the more sensible laws on the books, like the executive order that eliminated the law against dumping contaminants into rivers.
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Old 03-30-2017, 10:22 PM
 
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Tell me, how do you keep the sand out of your mouth, nose and eyes when you bury your head to ignore the obvious?

Arctic Sea Ice News and Analysis | Sea ice data updated daily with one-day lag

Maybe less sea ice can be helpful. Maybe we should, as I've always said, consider the fact that climate change will be good for the planet.

Of course, the ecofascist anti-Capitalist SJWs can't conceive of that, they just keep pouring on the Armageddon.

But maybe we are learning some things:

Sustainable Ecosystems and Community News: Melting sea ice may lead to more life in the sea


Now, this won't help with gender equality, a key environmental concern, but more life in the sea usually leads to more life everywhere.
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:20 AM
 
Location: Canada
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Maybe less sea ice can be helpful. Maybe we should, as I've always said, consider the fact that climate change will be good for the planet. ......... But maybe we are learning some things:

Sustainable Ecosystems and Community News: Melting sea ice may lead to more life in the sea

^^^ Interesting, but that is not new news.

What I'd like to know is why didn't they conjecture or publish anything about what will happen to that marine life when there are no longer any meltponds occuring? For meltponds to occur there has to be sea ice to melt. Less sea ice means less meltponds and no sea ice at all means no meltponds at all. When that finally happens, then what?

I think they aren't looking at the big picture.

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Old 03-31-2017, 12:36 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Its not just about water pollution Dumping the waste of 100 million barrels per day of fossil fuel into the atmosphere also has consequences.





You are correct jambo101!




"A new study says that if the extra green leaves prompted by rising CO2 levels were laid in a carpet, it would cover twice the continental USA."


Rise in CO2 has 'greened Planet Earth' - BBC News
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Old 03-31-2017, 12:43 AM
 
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It has now been shown that agriculture is possible in permafrost areas. Warming could enhance agricultural production in northern zones heretofore unthinkable. Siberia, Canada, Alaska, etc. Another possible good effect of climate change. That's the key to dealing with it. Discovering ways to to exploit it!
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