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Old 03-12-2017, 07:45 AM
 
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Erdogan is a tyrant and drunk with power, not much different than Vladimir Putin. They are both mental. Add that to an already volatile world where Iran and North Korea are belligerent nations, China having built up it's military and claiming the S. China Sea islands and threatening a first nuke strike, the Muslim invasion of Europe and the U.K., many Somalis and other Muslims being allowed into the U.S., any many more worldwide hot spots, points to this world being ready to explode in conflict we haven't seen since WW II, and with the advances of technology it'll be even more devastating if and when it happens.

If European leaders gave a darn about their countries' sovereignty and the safety and quality of life of their citizens they'd round up all of the recent Muslim immigrants, even the ones from Turkey, and keep them in camps until their country of origin takes them back. And if those countries refuse all NATO allies should commit to withholding any type of financial aid until they take their people back. They didn't go there because they were refugees, they went there after an ISIS Imam put out a call for Muslims around the world to swamp Europe to turn it Muslim, and to impregnate European women to increase the Muslim population. And that is why most who invaded Europe over the past couple of years were mostly young and middle aged men. And if you don't believe that I suggest searching the net for the articles that were written after the directive and before the invasion began. If those same people had come with weapons to invade they would have been treated as the invaders they were, but instead pretended to be refugees, and the Angela Merkels of the world were dumb enough to believe it. Shameful What she has done to Germany will have more long term consequences than what Hitler did to Germany. At least Germany was able to be rebuilt after the fall of Nazism. Getting the Muslims out of Europe will be much more difficult, and I highly doubt the will of leadership of E.U. nations to do so.
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Old 03-12-2017, 08:55 AM
 
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The Netherlands told Turkish politicians that they couldn't campaign to Turkish immigrants in the Netherlands to sway Dutch politics.
Your source for this conclusion was Zero Hedge. Turkish born immigrants accounted for only about 2% of the Dutch population in 2016 (Source). How exactly could that small percentage of the population "sway" Dutch politics?

A much more credible source for what is going on, the BBC, says:

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The minister was trying to win support among expatriates for a referendum on expanding Turkish presidential powers.
Turkey referendum: Clashes as Dutch expel minister - BBC News

Apparently, many Turks in European countries have dual citizenship.

I don't think campaigning in a foreign country is right but I can understand why the Turkish government wants to do it. Of course, the solution is not to allow dual citizenship.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:08 AM
 
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Your source for this conclusion was Zero Hedge. Turkish born immigrants accounted for only about 2% of the Dutch population in 2016 (Source). How exactly could that small percentage of the population "sway" Dutch politics?

A much more credible source for what is going on, the BBC, says:



Turkey referendum: Clashes as Dutch expel minister - BBC News

Apparently, many Turks in European countries have dual citizenship.

I don't think campaigning in a foreign country is right but I can understand why the Turkish government wants to do it. Of course, the solution is not to allow dual citizenship.
The same way gays and transsexuals who make up a small percent of the US can sway politics?
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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The same way gays and transsexuals who make up a small percent of the US can sway politics?
Who were they responsible for voting into office?
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Turkey lowered the Dutch flag at the Dutch ambassadors building and raised the Turkeys flag!

Now Turkey is calling Holland a fascist and nazi regime.

Sounds familiar!

The stupid Dutch government has sit back and opened the borders a few decades ago and now Turkeys ministers travel without visa to Holland to tell Turkeys-Dutch people who to vote for and come to Holland to protest.

Unbelievable, but we knew decades ago that this open door policy wasn't working with people who won't assimilate.

Look in Holland how the muslims dress. Like back to the stone ages and that for wanting to live in a Western society.

This will only be worse and Turkey was considered to become a member of the European Union! Turkey a country that locks up people who don't agree with their government or people who write in foreign newspapers a negative article about Erdogan, will be arrested if the enter Turkey.

Hopefully some Dutch people will wake up before the elections.
Doesn't everyone know what is going on here? Same as Trump. It is just to get the masses so stirred up they gratefully give up the rights taken away from them. Right wingers all over the globe will run this same scam. And the emotional crowds will just eat it up. Brave New World predicted this.
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Old 03-12-2017, 11:52 AM
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Doesn't everyone know what is going on here? Same as Trump. It is just to get the masses so stirred up they gratefully give up the rights taken away from them. Right wingers all over the globe will run this same scam. And the emotional crowds will just eat it up. Brave New World predicted this.
How about your group, the left wingers? How did the end up in North Korea and Venezuela to name a few?
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Old 03-12-2017, 02:24 PM
 
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Turkish law prohibits campaigning abroad - as row with Europe deepens

Turkish law prohibits campaigning abroad - as row with Europe deepens | dpa International
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