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Old 03-07-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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Let's make a list, shall we?

Here is what I've thought up, just off the top of my head

Defunct/out-dated ideas in 2017

1. (usually parents) "Just go to college and you'll be rich"

Just LOL!! Probably one of the worse ones. How many people's lives have been negatively affected by this one?

2. "the American dream"

No longer "works" for most people, there's simply not enough good-paying jobs to go around nor enough affordable detached homes. The economy that allowed this "dream" decades ago simply no longer exists.

3. "You can make it on minimum wage alone, [insert personal anecdotal story]"

Doesn't "work", at least not in this century.

4. "Getting married is a good idea"

Doesn't "work" for most people judging by divorce stats and stories of misery, an especially bad idea if you're a guy.

5. "Loyalty matters, grow with the company, etc"

It doesn't. Whether it's 3 years or 30 years you can be replaced at any time in cutthroat/ruthless 2017, there is no loyalty.

6. "Hard work pays off"

Doesn't "work" for most people, at least in the context of working a conventional job. "Smart work", connections/favoritism, lying on your resume, etc seems to be how you "get ahead" in 2017.

7. "The government can be trusted"

It can't, the internet/independent media has proven this time and time again

8. (usually a Leftist) "Let's just raise taxes/throw more tax money at [insert problem] and the problem will go away"

Doesn't "work", usually the underlying problem just gets worse (ironically), WHILE taxes go up

9. (usually a Leftist) "If we just outlaw/make illegal [insert problem] then the problem will go away"

Doesn't "work". See: drug epidemic, overdose epidemic, "lone-wolf" mass shootings, etc.

10. "The media are professionals, they would never lie to us"

I don't even.... just.....

Got any more? Thoughts or comments?
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Old 03-07-2017, 11:28 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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11. Government works for the people.
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Old 03-07-2017, 12:27 PM
 
Location: USA
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Let's make a list, shall we?

Here is what I've thought up, just off the top of my head

Defunct/out-dated ideas in 2017

1. (usually parents) "Just go to college and you'll be rich"

Just LOL!! Probably one of the worse ones. How many people's lives have been negatively affected by this one?

Agree. That's probably the worst one. Millions of lives have been set back years or even decades.

2. "the American dream"

No longer "works" for most people, there's simply not enough good-paying jobs to go around nor enough affordable detached homes. The economy that allowed this "dream" decades ago simply no longer exists.

Mostly agree. If you can land a good-paying job in a low COL area it's still doable, but it's probably the exception rather than the rule.

3. "You can make it on minimum wage alone, [insert personal anecdotal story]"

Doesn't "work", at least not in this century.

I've never heard that one. I don't think that idea ever worked.

4. "Getting married is a good idea"

Doesn't "work" for most people judging by divorce stats and stories of misery, an especially bad idea if you're a guy.

Getting married has always been a bad idea, that's nothing new. In the old days when religion was king (only a few generations ago), if you wanted sex you had to get married. The result was people being trapped in abusive relationships, unwanted children, child abuse, etc.

5. "Loyalty matters, grow with the company, etc"

It doesn't. Whether it's 3 years or 30 years you can be replaced at any time in cutthroat/ruthless 2017, there is no loyalty.

Agree, that one has been dead for 40 years.

6. "Hard work pays off"

Doesn't "work" for most people, at least in the context of working a conventional job. "Smart work", connections/favoritism, lying on your resume, etc seems to be how you "get ahead" in 2017.

Agree, it's all about getting past the HR bullshit, knowing the right people, and knowing how to deal with workplace politics. Outright lying/cheating is still not a good idea.

7. "The government can be trusted"

It can't, the internet/independent media has proven this time and time again

The US government has always been run by (and for) the aristocracy. The founding fathers were all aristocrats, many of whom owned slaves. When they spoke about freedom and liberty, they meant freedom and liberty FOR THEM at the expense of everyone else. The only difference in 2017 is that more people are aware of it now, thanks to the internet.

8. (usually a Leftist) "Let's just raise taxes/throw more tax money at [insert problem] and the problem will go away"

Doesn't "work", usually the underlying problem just gets worse (ironically), WHILE taxes go up

Not really a new problem, that's been going on since LBJ's Great Society.

9. (usually a Leftist) "If we just outlaw/make illegal [insert problem] then the problem will go away"

Doesn't "work". See: drug epidemic, overdose epidemic, "lone-wolf" mass shootings, etc.

That's nothing new. I say that laws against theft, murder, and other "crimes with victims" are a good idea nonetheless.

10. "The media are professionals, they would never lie to us"

I don't even.... just.....

1975: "If Ron Burgundy says it, it's the truth."

2017: "If a news story confirms my existing beliefs, it's the truth. If not, it's fake news."


Got any more? Thoughts or comments?
See my comments above, in bold.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:33 PM
 
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11. Government works for the people.
Do you actually believe that? Truly?
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: 404
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Capitalism.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:41 PM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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#12 We are from the Government and we are hear to help....

#13 Credibility. Be it from the Right the Left, Federal agencies and especially the mass media. We can't believe anyone anymore.

#14 Common Sense. Has been replaced by ignorance of the self indulgent self entitled cry babies that make the most noise so they get the most notice.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:45 PM
 
Location: Central Mexico and Central Florida
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We can trust our President to be decent and a role model for our children.
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:49 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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15. Giving hand-outs to people helps them

16. Have children so they will take care of you in old age

17. Have children so you can pass on all the wealth you've accumulated in your lifetime

18. When you retire, Social Security will support you

19. If government forces other people to pay for your health care, costs will go down

20. If we let more poor people come to America, we will be more prosperous

21. Muslims want to come to America because they want to embrace our way of life
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Old 03-07-2017, 02:53 PM
 
Location: 404
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American Dream
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Old 03-07-2017, 03:25 PM
 
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4. "Getting married is a good idea"

Doesn't "work" for most people judging by divorce stats and stories of misery, an especially bad idea if you're a guy.

"Getting married has always been a bad idea, that's nothing new. In the old days when religion was king (only a few generations ago), if you wanted sex you had to get married. The result was people being trapped in abusive relationships, unwanted children, child abuse, etc."

Not true. Marriage and family are the foundation to hold a country like USA together. Otherwise you have the government take over for the family. Marriage is the best thing for adults who actually want to live like responsible adults. It also helps people financially by combining incomes into one household.
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