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Old 03-13-2017, 03:03 PM
 
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I would be quite pleased if those over the 90th percentile paid ALL of the operating costs of the government they have bribed and the country they own.
And billions of people around the world think "rich" people like you should be paying a 50% tax to help them.
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Old 03-13-2017, 11:14 PM
 
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SJWs cant understand facts and stats. These are just numbers. Media, SJWs, politicians manipulate them ftor agendas. Fact is what it is. The percentage you pay in taxes isw directly associated with what you make, no more, no less. If you make money, you get taxed. You soend, you get taxed..
No other way to look at it, saying tue rich dont pay enough is silly, because no one can define Rich.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:32 AM
 
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I know exactly what a regressive tax is... the poor spend proportionally more on necessities than the wealthy, therefore a sales tax has more impact on them. That is your argument. But they also receive the lions share of social handouts. Any regressive effect is offset by this.

If we implemented the Fair Tax they would also receive a check each month covering the tax costs on necessities such as food and clothing.

Our current system is completely insane and should be thrown onto the ash heap of history.
They receive 0% of the benefit of capital gains tax being much lower than the rate of general income tax and they can't take advantage of many of the other loopholes benefiting other high income earners. There are plenty of people who have an AGI below $50K (who according to these states pay barely any of the taxes) who still pay their share of the taxes without getting to take advantage of much. There is a big gulf between qualifying between "handouts" and having an AGI of $49K.

A family making $49K, which is the median household income in many areas, still pays more of their income in property taxes, sales taxes, etc than the person who has an AGI of $490K, and that's even more the case in a household that has an AGI of $39K. That might be a single mom who is a teacher or a social worker, for example, not someone who is reaching for handouts.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:35 AM
 
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Poor people should pay for all the free stuff they get from the government.

It's time to bring back debtors prisons and workhouses.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:39 AM
 
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In order words, to be fair, you strongly believe that rich people are severely hurting and need tax cuts, while the poor and middle class should get their taxes raised.
He showed only stats derived from the IRS website.
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Old 03-14-2017, 04:48 AM
 
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Progressive tax systems are nothing more than corrupt unethical people using government to steal.

There should be no progressive system. Straight tax, everyone pays the same, anything else is just envious busy bodies justifying theft.
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Old 03-14-2017, 05:52 AM
 
Location: Florida
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A national sales tax isn't regressive. Make it a fixed percentage on new retail purchases and it consumes the same percentage of everyone's income, no matter what their income is.
Such tax is considered regressive because lower income people will spend a larger percentage of their income in sales taxes than higher earners.
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:21 AM
 
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Steve can you do that calculation as a percentage of total income paid for all taxes and not selectively only do it for federal income tax.
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:24 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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I would be quite pleased if those over the 90th percentile paid ALL of the operating costs of the government they have bribed and the country they own.
Whatever that means.
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Old 03-14-2017, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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Poor people should pay for all the free stuff they get from the government.

It's time to bring back debtors prisons and workhouses.
Are you sure? Trump would be in prison.
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