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Old 03-14-2017, 11:19 AM
 
Location: CO/UT/AZ/NM Catch me if you can!
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I call foul!

We’re going to have insurance for everybody!


- Donald Trump, 1/15/17



Under TrumpCare, 24 million Americans will lose their healthcare by 2026.

- Congressional Budget Office Report, 3/13/17

 
Old 03-14-2017, 11:21 AM
 
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I call foul!

We’re going to have insurance for everybody!


- Donald Trump, 1/15/17



Under TrumpCare, 24 million Americans will lose their healthcare by 2026.

- Congressional Budget Office Report, 3/13/17
but but but- those 24 million are all illegals so it doesn't count.....I can already foresee this as the new slogan...
 
Old 03-14-2017, 11:23 AM
 
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They are saying the poor/unemployed/old people kicked off of Medicaid will be "voluntarily uninsured", if they don't buy a policy they cannot afford.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 11:26 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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Meh....


I equate it to:


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President’s weekly address, June 6, 2009: "If you like the plan you have, you can keep it. If you like the doctor you have, you can keep your doctor, too. The only change you’ll see are falling costs as our reforms take hold."
 
Old 03-14-2017, 11:27 AM
 
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i don't believe they said 24 million would lose their insurance - they said that 24 million would be uninsured. that includes people who were forced to buy insurance under obamacare and that who no longer want to.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 11:28 AM
 
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i don't believe they said 24 million would lose their insurance - they said that 24 million would be uninsured. that includes people who were forced to buy insurance under obamacare and that who no longer want to.
And who might that be?
 
Old 03-14-2017, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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And who might that be?
A lot of people, actually.

Especially younger working millennials around my age (25-30) who don't really NEED insurance.

Also, those families who were doing just fine until Obamacare came and super increased their premium.

Or small businesses who couldn't stay afloat because they were forced to pay their employees Obamacare instead of them having independently owned insurance.

Made them switch their long time doctors for some crappy doctors who could barely speak English, etc.

People somehow still don't realize that Obamacare, while good in theory, hurt a lot of people in the long run.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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A lot of people, actually.

Especially younger working millennials around my age (25-30) who don't really NEED insurance.

Also, those families who were doing just fine until Obamacare came and super increased their premium.

Or small businesses who couldn't stay afloat because they were forced to pay their employees Obamacare instead of them having independently owned insurance.

Made them switch their long time doctors for some crappy doctors who could barely speak English, etc.

People somehow still don't realize that Obamacare, while good in theory, hurt a lot of people in the long run.
Younger people don't think they need insurance until they get in a car accident or get cancer. Then what?
 
Old 03-14-2017, 12:13 PM
 
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As I said in another thread, I won't call him a liar until the bill is on his desk and a pen is in his hand. Until it's signed, he's not yet lied about that.

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Meh....


I equate it to:
It's not the same. The ACA was not designed to make people lose their doctors. It was an inevitable consequence, as any healthcare law may cause some shifting. It was foolish of Obama to make that promise. But a bill that does not necessarily gauruntee universal access, as is the case with AHCA, doesn't have that kind of wiggle room. Not everyone is covered because the bill is not designed to do so. The promises made by both executives are not being fulfilled, but one is in relation to the bill by design and the other is a consequence that is out of the bills control.
 
Old 03-14-2017, 12:16 PM
 
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