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Did they get their idea from the movie "Legally Blonde"? Because it sure sounds like that scene in the classroom where they were discussing "child care payments" from a literal sperm donor.
Yes, the movie is dumb. So is this idea.
And I was all prepared to talk about a lunatic Republican, only to discover:
What makes you think the issue is a scientific one?
I grow tired of people holding science hostage. Liberals are worse in this regard frankly, but it happens all the time. But science doesn't guide politics, nor are most of these pro-science people really all that scientific.
I was just responding to burdell's claim. I see scrolling quickly back through that the game of semantics will be played.
The Roe vs Wade ruling was based on privacy rights and the leading judge gave his statements as to why abortion must become legal. Basically, his views were based on a respect for capitalist competition in which employers demand the most out of the lives of their employees, above and beyond their spouses and children, and that he fundamentally viewed the reproductive design (in which the female sex gets impregnated and not the male) formed through the evolutionary process as unfair.
That's Roe vs Wade summed up. You are right it had little to nothing to do with science.
Actually, the Justices were cognizant that the US Constitution protects all human right to life. Unless another human is threatening the life of another or threatening them with severe bodily harm. Then you can legally deprive another human of their life.
So, what the Justices did, as they are lawyers, and lawyers are shysters for good or ill, they claimed to be too ignorant of science to know when billohocal, genetic, human life begins. They claimed that still remained a mystery. And therefore, in essence, their ruling on the side of legalizing abortion had to be grounded in ignoring science.
The issue if personhood is a philosophical inquiry and debate. But in terms of developing life, and what type of life that is genetically, we already know when human life begins biologically, genetically, and we have decoded the human genome. So, none of this remains a mystery. The only thing that can be disputed is what constitutes personhood. But given the US Supreme Court being the lawyer shysters they are, have decades ago ruled that corporations are legal persons and enjoy the civil rights protection as black people or any individual human being, the pro-abortion fanatics and lawyer shysters are going to have a tough time being persuasive in their philosophical arguments that General Electric is a person, so is Obama, but any unborn child of his is not a person, even when carrying half his DNA.
You are welcome to call him whatever you want, but that wouldn't make him a "blastocyst", which is a specific embryonic developmental stage.
No, you can't kill him because he's clearly a person. Is an early stage embryo a person, though? That was my question.
If you'd seen his face you might think differently but that's neither here nor there. You don't need any of this blastocyst nonsense to justify abortion. It's much simpler than that. Any nation that can wage war and execute criminals can authorize its citizens to kill their unborn. Under certain economic systems it is even a necessity.
I am beginning to think we should have kept women barefoot, pregnant and in the kitchen.
Yeah, thats kind of what said female legislator is fighting against. Male conservative legislators drafting bills and enacting ridiculous laws in an attempt to put women back in the kitchen pregnant and barefoot. Thus fighting stupidity (ridiculous abortion restrictions) with satire (all sperm are sacred).
As long as it's a hot female cop writing the fine, I'm good with it.
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