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Spend a few hours in a clothing-oriented distribution center, and anyone with a basic understanding of economics will recognize that American industry is simply not competitive for many apparel items, and never can be; the process itself is too labor-intensive. The proper remedy is to encourage retraining, so the displaced employees can do more stimulating work, and earn more doing it.
A certain percentage of the Trump camp simply doesn't have the economic background to recognize this -- yet; (and It's not that the would-be puppeteers of the NEA want to encourage them to do so, because they would simply lose their loyal captive embarrassment).
Almost all clothing is made in China. My wife spent her entire career in retailing as a store manager (Gen Mgr) for an upscale Southern CA department store on the order of Dillard's. Everything is made in China.
alright, refresh our memories, how many clothing manufacturers are there in the US today? and how many of them do high end clothing? and how many of the can handle the volume required?
and then how many clothing stores are there in the US that sell US made goods?
you all keep harping on this crap like somehow the trumps are responsible for clothing being manufactured outside the US, and that somehow trump was supposed to jump in and get american manufacturing ramped up in his first day in office, and then you get pissy when that doesnt happen.
Bingo! Right on! These hockey pucks don't know what the hell they're talking about. And most of them are probably not even employed, but living in their parents basement!
You can still buy made in America if you're willing to pay for it. The problem is retailers are delivering exactly what the consumer wants. Cheap foreign goods. If you want retailers to carry goods made in America then don't buy the ones not made in America. They'll get the message really quickly.
Hey, I get that. But this thread is about Ivanka shipping in **** tons of foreign made clothing while her father is yapping about making America great again.
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MAGA! Go out and support Ivanka!
The left is only interested when liberals are defended by guns and are against guns when someone else has them!
The left only cares about liberals and backing their non sense!
2017 is the end of liberals and their agenda! MAGA!
See this guy, Ivorytickler? Must hate America. He is actively encouraging people to buy foreign made goods for no other reason than she's the daughter of the President.
So what? That's not proof. Why is that proof just because you say it is?
It is evidence - whether you choose to believe it exists, or not (it seems you don't), is another matter.
Are there specific points of the source material that you take issue with? Do you think they just made up a bunch of numbers and didn't actually do an analysis of the shipment data? Do you think they're just blatantly lying? If so - why?
And also if so - why would you believe anything put forth to you in regards to this matter?
It doesn't seem like you would be willing to acknowledge subsequent evidence if you have already disregarded this first batch of evidence.
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I don't believe that story.
Confirmation of my prediction.
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You don't believe the news about the "wiretapping" of Trump, even though it's all over the place.
How do you know that JAMS14 doesn't believe in the news about the "wiretapping" of Trump?
And let's be clear about that coverage - Trump is the one that made the accusation, with no evidence to back up said accusation...the coverage on that matter has basically amounted to "well, Donald...back up your claims".
Why would anyone not believe in these stories when they're just a rehash of the events?? Trump making baseless accusation with no evidence...media reporting on said tweets...media questioning the legitimacy of those accusations...
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So, why do you believe this? Why should I believe it? Show me proof!
There is evidence in the citation. You might think it's made up (which I think you do)...but it has been given to you.
If you think it is made up/fabricated, I'm not sure why one should bother working to produce more evidence for - you'd likely just disregard that evidence, too, right?
Bingo! Right on! These hockey pucks don't know what the hell they're talking about. And most of them are probably not even employed, but living in their parents basement!
Dude...
Come on. Just read the thread...see my post here:
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If only there was a way to find this kind of information out...what a wonderful invention that would be
Nordstrom (where Ivanka Trump used to sell her products) even breaks out brands for you: made in usa | Nordstrom
If this was actually an issue that the Trump's cared about, they could have made this happen already. Or they could AT LEAST announce their intentions of moving production/some part of the process back to the USA.
So far: absolutely nothing. That is all you need to know about this family. They are just talk.
Does that mean this is the norm? Of course not.
Does it mean it is possible? You bet your butt it does.
Especially for the Trumps who have a vested interest in this kind of move. I mean, they haven't even given hints that this is something (moving production to the US) that is in their company's long-term goals, let alone something that is imminent.
And that is both telling and not shocking - but it is hypocrisy at its finest.
If truth, logic, and pure, empirical reason were the standards by which a rational American nation chose its leaders, neither Trump nor Clinton would have a leg to stand on. But in fairness, reason alone has never ruled, and never will; we can only hope that it will become a larger influence. The susceptibility of the low-information "swing" voter ebbs and flows -- but it has probably become a larger factor in recent years with the increasing polarization of the electorate into two evenly-matched, well-defined and ideologically-motivated, but simplistic camps; that, and the lowest-common-denominator appeals of the electronic media, and the 15-second sound byte.
The steadily increasing component of minorities was a principal factor in the election of the nation's first non-white President, and the perceived "betrayal" of the white working class was an equally-strong factor in the rejection of Hillary Clinton -- who probably lost mostly because she became perceived as just another back-room power broker. And within those two scenarios, better-educated independents (thankfully!) still held the balance of power.
But to this poster personally, the continued "refinement" of identity politics, particularly as demonstrated in California, represents the largest single threat to the traditions of American pluralism; not because of any threat to a supposed "consensus" founded upon supposed Caucasian traditions and standards, but because -- as demonstrated by the near-monopoly on power held in Mexico by the Institutional Revolutionary Party (PRI) for nearly ninety years -- it revolves around keeping the focus of a lesser-educated lumpenproletariat upon superficial issues. Should it succeed, it will be time for us to relinquish our place as the most successful practicioners of a noble endeavor that emerged on both sides of the Atlantic about three hundred years ago.
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Meh... There are millions of Trump supporters.
They sometimes buy what Ivanka offers for sale.
Who cares?
As long as you don't mind being a hypocrite.... because Ivanka isn't #MAGA..... Trump really wasn't #MAGA until he decided to run for president..... funny how that works.
The left is only interested when liberals are defended by guns and are against guns when someone else has them!
The left only cares about liberals and backing their non sense!
2017 is the end of liberals and their agenda! MAGA!
Your spin is pathetic,it has nothing to do with the post or the thread.Trump your president,Putin's president said buy American,his own daughter refuse's to listen to him,It say's volume's!!!
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.Trump your president,Putin's president said buy American,his own daughter refuse's to listen to him,It say's volume's!!!
