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No, you're making this up. They could return just fine. That's the majority of the cases that came to the USA. Don't cherry pick a couple cases and apply it to all of them to try and advance your political talking-point.
Anyways, the USA does not need millions of war refugees, I'm sorry but my heart is not big enough for stupidity.
The Scots coming on the 1600 and 1700 (which are the ones in the original message) could not, those were fleeing prosecution.
The ones coming on 1800/1900 were regular immigrants.
President Obama disagrees with you on this point and so does the dictionary. He called black people descendants of immigrants. They were forced and it was evil, but they did take up permanent residence in a new land - by force, but force/freewill is not mentioned in the definition.
"Unless you are one of the first Americans, a Native American, we are all descended from folks who came from someplace else -- whether they arrived on the Mayflower or on a slave ship, whether they came through Ellis Island or crossed the Rio Grande." -Obama
Also, African-Americans, except for recent immigrants from Africa are pretty much guaranteed to have some white ancestry - and about 1/4th of it on average. You seem to be selectively warping your definition to make whites immigrants, but not other groups for political purposes, - so there you go. Blacks typically have about 1/4th of ancestry descended from white immigrants.
You are a descendant of all of your genetic lines, not just 74% of it. Would you let Elizabeth Warren, who is probably only ~1% Native American get away with claiming to be only Native American in this argument? Pretend that she isn't a liberal when you answer.
If you go by the actual definition of immigrant, than yes they are. I realize that reality and politics do not mix well.
Also, are you a history denier that denies that Native Americans came over in multiple waves? Do you deny history that Native Americans were not static and moved around and intruded on other Native American land and resources? Do you deny the reality that Native Americans are not one monolithic group ?- Because your faulty logic seems to make such an assumption. Do you deny history that Native Americans had conflict with one another over land, resources, etc...in part due to immigration pre-Columbus?
My logic isn't faulty, and I didn't say a thing about Indians being Noble Savages. Of course they fought each other just like people did all over the world. Still, Indians aren't immigrants. At best they're migrants.
And trying to assert white ancestry for African Americans is just laughable on your part. Most of us can't identify a white ancestor except by a DNA test. Therefore we don't count 'em. For me, it's as if it's not even a possibility. I'm 100% black and will remain that way until I see proof that I'm not.
The Scots coming on the 1600 and 1700 (which are the ones in the original message) could not, those were fleeing prosecution.
The ones coming on 1800/1900 were regular immigrants.
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When did the Scottish come to the US?
The first Scots began coming to the New World in the early 1600's, Emigration picked up during the Cromwellian Civil War in Britain, as many Scots from both sides were transported to the American Colonies in the mid-1600's. The Jacobite rebellions of 1715 and 1745 also saw numbers of Scotsmen transported to America, as did the Highland Clearances which came somewhat later. Scottish emigrants who had gone to northern Ireland as colonists of the Ulster plantations in the first half of the 16th century also emigrated to America in the early 1700's. [MOD CUT/copyright]
Who's shutting the door? We allow in 1 million legal immigrants annually in keeping with our ability to provide them with jobs and resources without it negatively impacting our own citizens. We cannot however allow everyone in the world to come here. We can't be the flophouse and employment agency to the whole world. It would be committing national suicide. Surely, you understand this?
My logic isn't faulty, and I didn't say a thing about Indians being Noble Savages. Of course they fought each other just like people did all over the world. Still, Indians aren't immigrants. At best they're migrants.
And trying to assert white ancestry for African Americans is just laughable on your part. Most of us can't identify a white ancestor except by a DNA test. Therefore we don't count 'em. For me, it's as if it's not even a possibility. I'm 100% black and will remain that way until I see proof that I'm not.
So no... we aren't the descendants of immigrants.
So you deny the dictionary definition of immigrant.
So you deny history and pretend Native Americans didn't come over in multiple waves and intrude upon other groups already here.
So you deny the diversity of and existence of different Native American nations that traveled into other nations and fought.
So you deny the DNA of people in regards to if they are factually descendants or not.
You can't honestly "think" any of this, you must be substituting reality for political purposes.
What's the rule for who is considered an immigrant? Does it only count if your generation and your parents' generation were born elsewhere? What if your grandparents, great-grandparents, great-great-grandparents, or great-great-great-grandparents who were born elsewhere? Where do you draw the line?
What's the rule for who is considered an immigrant? Does it only count if your generation and your parents' generation were born elsewhere? What if your grandparents, great-grandparents, great-great-grandparents, or great-great-great-grandparents who were born elsewhere? Where do you draw the line?
It's really quite simple. If you were born here you are a native born citizen not an immigrant. The only exception would be babies born here from illegal aliens. It's merely been a PC policy to deem them so but they still aren't immigrants.
It's really quite simple. If you were born here you are a native born citizen not an immigrant. The only exception would be babies born here from illegal aliens. It's merely been a PC policy to deem them so but they still aren't immigrants.
the saying goes We are a COUNTRY of immigrants... and you may lose your heritage - change your name drop a few parts of it- - but won't change it- you are who your forefathers were. we live the law of the land per the last ruling, so not pro illegal-- But what is interesting- when we talk about forefathers, they come up really quick when amendment 2 is questioned-
the saying goes We are a COUNTRY of immigrants... and you may lose your heritage - change your name drop a few parts of it- - but won't change it- you are who your forefathers were. we live the law of the land per the last ruling, so not pro illegal-- But what is interesting- when we talk about forefathers, they come up really quick when amendment 2 is questioned-
well then, since i was born here in this country, that makes me a native born american, by law and by constitutional amendment. but i am also part american indian as well, thus in two ways i am truly native american, so get off my land.
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