How did American employers survive before mass Hispanic immigration? (wages, Mexican, ethic)

[burdell]

How did American employers survive before mass Hispanic immigration?


There are many web sites detailing the various immigrant groups who made it to the US and the industries that hired them, all you need do is look.


Just one of many: American History: Immigrants: America's Industrial Growth Depended on Them (VOA Special English 2005-10-19)

[BugsyPal]

Originally Posted by want to learn

I grew up in the 60s and 70s in a metro area in the Midwest of 100,000 people. 99% of the people were 4th generation white people. Houses were built, factories hummed along, meals were cooked at restaurants, bed pans were changed at the hospital and road and bridges were maintained. All this was done by non immigrant white people.

Now I return to my home town and the area is flooded with Hispanic immigrants. (Nice hard working people). They are doing the jobs mentioned above.

What happened? How did we survive without the immigrants back in the 1960s and 70s in many towns all over America?

(Yes, I know there were Hispanic Immigrants in that era, but not nearly as many. Most of the towns in the Midwest were mostly white people.)

Please don't call me a racist or a troll, this is a serious economic and political question!

Grew up in the 1970's New York and it was largely the same; but you have to remember a few things.


It was still possible for a man to be in the construction trades, own a landscaping business, factory work or whatever and still put meat on the table for his family. You had little competition from illegals driving down prices.


Many whites instilled in their kids to get an education and become *something* such as a white collar professional instead of doing trades or factory work.


The Kennedy Immigration act of the 1960's shifted immigration from Europe to Asia, Mexico and South America. So the waves of unskilled or even skilled Irish, German, Italian, Polish or whatever Europeans slacked off. Instead you got Mexicans/Latinos-Hispanics.


Stagflation and various labor issues beginning in the 1970's saw many industries pack up and move off shore, taking jobs with them, especially manufacturing.


As manufacturing left large parts of the country in particular the "Rust Belt/Mid-West" it took a huge toll on local economies that caused a ripple effect of job loss. Many young people coming up in the 1970's looked around and realized it was better to get an education and go after some sort of employment that offered security.

[dothetwist]

American blacks did a lot of the migrant work; I remember seeing them in Pennsylvania, working on harvests, back in the 50s.

Have to remember, segregation was in effect and legal up thru the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (though schools desegregated earlier in most states).

[nam2015]

[quote=want to learn;47514738]I grew up in the 60s and 70s in a metro area in the Midwest of 100,000 people. 99% of the people were 4th generation white people. Houses were built, factories hummed along, meals were cooked at restaurants, bed pans were changed at the hospital and road and bridges were maintained. All this was done by non immigrant white people.

Now I return to my home town and the area is flooded with Hispanic immigrants. (Nice hard working people). They are doing the jobs mentioned above.

What happened? How did we survive without the immigrants back in the 1960s and 70s in many towns all over America?

(Yes, I know there were Hispanic Immigrants in that era, but not nearly as many. Most of the towns in the Midwest were mostly white people.)

Please don't call me a racist or a troll, this is a serious economic and political question![/QUOTE

Those Midwest statistics makes no sense. Source?

[WIHS2006]

Originally Posted by juppiter

People had more babies back then, and started having them younger. If white people want that time back without needing immigration, white people need to have more babies, and have them younger.

I am a middle class white person, and in my social circle, having children before 30 is almost unheard of. And having more than 2 is also rare. I am 29 and none of my friends or family around my age have had kids yet.

^ this is pretty much how it is in my circle of friends as well and I am the same age. At our age most people are only starting to think about getting married ... they haven't even considered kids. To be honest though, given that kids are expensive these days I can't blame them for limiting themselves to 1 or 2 kids. Remember, people our age have much lower incomes than our parents did at our ages. Half of Americans under 35 are still living at home. If they can't even afford an apartment how are they supposed to afford kids?

[FatBob96]

Originally Posted by War Beagle

Same thing when I visit my wife's family in IN. All of the "jobs Americans won't do" are amazingly worked by Americans. Coming from the borderlands, I always find this fascinating.

A lot of Hispanic immigrants don't like areas with cold climates.

Areas with flat economies aren't very attractive to them either.

They go where the jobs are.

[want to learn]

What would have happened if there were no immigration bills approved by Kennedy on that flooded the country with immigrants? And we enforced our borders. Would the tough and dirty jobs still get staffed by the children of the working class folks who did the job back in the day?

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by want to learn

I grew up in the 60s and 70s in a metro area in the Midwest of 100,000 people. 99% of the people were 4th generation white people. Houses were built, factories hummed along, meals were cooked at restaurants, bed pans were changed at the hospital and road and bridges were maintained. All this was done by non immigrant white people.

Now I return to my home town and the area is flooded with Hispanic immigrants. (Nice hard working people). They are doing the jobs mentioned above.

What happened? How did we survive without the immigrants back in the 1960s and 70s in many towns all over America?

(Yes, I know there were Hispanic Immigrants in that era, but not nearly as many. Most of the towns in the Midwest were mostly white people.)

Please don't call me a racist or a troll, this is a serious economic and political question!

You're not making any sense. First you talk about how it was mostly non-immigrant white people doing blue-collared jobs decades ago and then you go on to ask how did we survived without immigrants back then.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by ottomobeale

Ive PM'ed Spanish work crews. Amazing people willing to work inside a 100 degree building.

Spanish work crews? Did you mean Mexican illegals? I have news for you Americans have always been willing to work under hot conditions.

[Oldglory]

Originally Posted by juppiter

People had more babies back then, and started having them younger. If white people want that time back without needing immigration, white people need to have more babies, and have them younger.

I am a middle class white person, and in my social circle, having children before 30 is almost unheard of. And having more than 2 is also rare. I am 29 and none of my friends or family around my age have had kids yet.

We don't need to increase our population growth with more babies or immigration right now and why would you just single out white Americans anyway? We have a shortage of blue-collared jobs and much of it is due to massive illegal immigration.