Sounds Like Universal Healthcare Has a Shelf life (salary, premium, solution)

[BaskingIguana]

Originally Posted by man4857

Are you saying, I can put a price on your life? How about I'll pay you what you think you're worth and have you die?

Everyone's life has a price already. But that's not really determined by just me or you, but society in general.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by BaskingIguana

Everyone's life has a price already. But that's not really determined by just me or you, but society in general.

No. "Society" does not determine that.

What does is capitalism.

[kimchee]

Originally Posted by BaskingIguana

If I have money, I want to be treated first. I worked for that. I don't want to have wait if I have more money.

Is this the new survival theory? Survival of the richest, and scr*w everyone else? Sounds like the Repug's new health plan alright.

[PCALMike]

Originally Posted by BaskingIguana

Feel free to immigrate to Europe then.

Meaningless talking point after you're left with no other counter arguments.

[man4857]

Originally Posted by kimchee

Is this the new survival theory? Survival of the richest, and scr*w everyone else? Sounds like the Repug's new health plan alright.

Yup, apparently. Just get Trump to buy him out that's all you need, he's worthless to him anyways.

[BentBow]

Originally Posted by tamajane

It is not unusual for doctors to tell patients they must stop smoking or lose weight if they are obese, before doing certain surgeries.

It is actually the law. Which makes it mandatory.

[BaskingIguana]

Originally Posted by man4857

No. "Society" does not determine that.

What does is capitalism.

Yes, society does determine it. Even in communist ones. You think some worker comes before a high level politician in those countries?

Lol. How naive you are.

We are not all equal. Some people are worth more kept alive. And that's part of life, I'm sorry that it sounds so cold.

[jacqueg]

Originally Posted by jimj

Really? Please show some facts that back up your assertions because as far as I know if any sick person presents themselves at a hospital they are treated regardless of their bank account or lack thereof...

But if they don't have the means to pay, the hospital doesn't have to keep them once their life is no longer in immediate danger.

Patient dumping in America: Hospitals discharging sick homeless back onto the street | Fox News

[man4857]

Originally Posted by BaskingIguana

Yes, society does determine it. Even in communist ones. You think some worker comes before a high level politician in those countries?

Lol. How naive you are.

We are not all equal. Some people are worth more kept alive. And that's part of life, I'm sorry that it sounds so cold.

You're now mixing economics with societal structures.

Societal structures are made up. "Worth" is an opinion in societies, not based off fact.

[BaskingIguana]

Originally Posted by man4857

You're now mixing economics with societal structures.

Societal structures are made up. "Worth" is an opinion in societies, not based off fact.

Worth only exists in the context of societies. Afterall, you're asking society to control who has access to healthcare. Guess what.

According to nature, none of us are worth anything alive or dead.