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Old 03-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I have no issue with cuts to the State Dept. Their track record of waste and poor performance over the last 16 years and more should make us all question what we are paying them to do.
The EPA has morphed into something that needs to be checked.
The military could cut it's budget and still be improved by simply not using it as the world police force.
We get more dollar for dollar from the state department than from DOD, you really think the state department is inefficient compared to the DOD. Diplomacy is the answer, peaceful solutions are the best way to bring about peace. Sure they have made mistakes, but to cut their budget while you increase the US military that is the equivalent of the next 10 countries combined. This is the old school mentality that we can bomb our way to peace, that hasn't worked at all for the last 70 years and it needs to change.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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Totally disgusted at the elimination of federal funding for Meals on Wheels. There is no excuse, none at all, for this.
"There is no excuse, none at all, for this"

Of course there is.

It is NOT a fed responsibility, it is a STATE responsibility.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You DO exaggerate a lot!
No not really, the car companies always complain they are going broke, they loved their obsolescence and our government backed them. The disaster and retooling that occurred in 2008 brought them back to reality, they were decades behind other countries.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:44 PM
 
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Every agency needs to be reviewed for waste and have added oversight but sweeping budget cuts don't address these inefficiencies. This will reduce EPA clean up programs that are already in place.
I've bee saying for a LONG time, EVERY single fed program, military INCLUDED, should go under a review and determine if it is still needed, does it meet its purpose, is it run efficiently and is it cost effective.

Then a decision should be made to see if this program is WORTH BORROWING MORE MONEY top KEEP for.

For THAT is what we are doing today, BORROWING.

At almost $20 TRILLION in debt, we need to put our financial house in order.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:45 PM
 
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Does any article shop an approximated deficit for the year?

I don't mind the cuts, but I don't want to see any Pentagon increase until deficits are more under control.

I don't like the blanket Democrat refusal on any wall money.
" but I don't want to see any Pentagon increase"

Defense budgets have been cut every year under Sequester.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:48 PM
 
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And like you I literally said I had no problem with monitoring and cutting actual wasteful spending. The problem is using that to justify massive sweeping cuts that will affect things that truly do benefit Americans and help them keep their jobs.
"and help them keep their jobs"

The fed is NOT a social program.

If a program is cut and that person is NOT needed anymore to work it, it does NOT make any sense to keep paying them to do nothing.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:53 PM
 
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The poster is not the one with all "that drama". The Trump administration is the one causing the drama! Endless off the cuff tweets, that aren't even true, EO's that are unconstitutional, etc. Just because you "won" does not mean that this president is ok.
" EO's that are unconstitutional, etc"

OK genius, Which EO's have gone to the Supreme Court and ruled "unconstitutional'?

Do you NOT see the irony?

Obama had MORE EO's ruled unconstitutional than ANY other President.

Several by a 9-0 vote.

Did you complain then?

I doubt it.
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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WE out spend the everyone on the military and how is it used to defend the USA? How many Carrier battle groups do we need? If we stopped blowing the budget on playing world cop we could save billions. How much have we spent bombing Syria? Patrolling for pirates? Yemen? Libya? Afghanistan? Iraq?
Isn't it the job of the UN to play world cop?
"WE out spend the everyone on the military"

Prove it.

That isn't he point anyway.

The world is getting smaller and smaller everyday.

Everything now is MORE global.

If you want to believe that things happening on other parts of the worlds do NOT affect us, go right ahead.

Isolationism was tried when the world wasn't as small as it is now and that didn't work out to well.

How do you think WWI and WWII came to be?

Contrary to sames beliefs, there ARE a LOT of bad people out there and they NEED to be kept in check.

One of the few things that IS in the Constitution for us to do is to provide for a common defense.

Return those things to the states that are NOT in the constitution and we will be better off.
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:10 PM
 
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We get more dollar for dollar from the state department than from DOD, you really think the state department is inefficient compared to the DOD. Diplomacy is the answer, peaceful solutions are the best way to bring about peace. Sure they have made mistakes, but to cut their budget while you increase the US military that is the equivalent of the next 10 countries combined. This is the old school mentality that we can bomb our way to peace, that hasn't worked at all for the last 70 years and it needs to change.
"We get more dollar for dollar from the state department than from DOD,"

Your opinion based on what?

"you really think the state department is inefficient compared to the DOD"

Does it matter?

Having worked for both, YES I do

Have you worked for either?

They BOOTH need to be "audited".
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Old 03-16-2017, 01:14 PM
 
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We get more dollar for dollar from the state department than from DOD, you really think the state department is inefficient compared to the DOD. Diplomacy is the answer, peaceful solutions are the best way to bring about peace. Sure they have made mistakes, but to cut their budget while you increase the US military that is the equivalent of the next 10 countries combined. This is the old school mentality that we can bomb our way to peace, that hasn't worked at all for the last 70 years and it needs to change.
"We get more dollar for dollar from the state department than from DOD,"[/quote]

Your opinion based on what?

"you really think the state department is inefficient compared to the DOD"

Does it matter?

Having worked for both, YES I do

Have you worked for either?

They BOOTH need to be "audited".

With a looming $20 TRILLION debt we need to "audit" EVERY program in the fed.
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