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Old 03-16-2017, 12:33 PM
 
Location: Posting from my space yacht.
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Funding should be centralized!


No! Funding should be decentralized!


You're a mean despicable worm of a creature!


You're a commie!
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:35 PM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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Funding should be centralized!


No! Funding should be decentralized!


You're a mean despicable worm of a creature!


You're a commie!
LMAO, there ya go.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Warrior Country
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You are questioning media reporting of the facts of the proposed budget?
Odd question...but no, I'm not questioning the "media" (or the facts).

I was poking fun at the NYT. A once proud institution which likely won't exist 2 decades from now, except as a second tier internet news site (employing 32 people)....& is currently a leftist, alarmist, rag.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:40 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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And what do you have to say about the right telling us over and over and over again that we should increase military spending despite already having the most expensive military in the world?
Firstly, we currently have an all voluntary military. No draft, or involuntary conscription. If you don't want to serve, you don't have to.

Secondly, Joe Machinist down the block can't just crank out military grade weapons voluntarily to "pitch in."

And Thirdly, national defense IS a Constitutionally enumerated responsibility of the Fed Gov, while Food Stamps, MoW, Medicaid, Section 8 Housing, and other social welfare programs are not. Those social programs are Constitutionally the purview of the states' and local governments.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Who's whining and complaining about relying on local charities in this thread? Lefties? Or Righties.

It's the Lefties. Why? Because righties give more to charity (research-based fact) and are therefore more helpful to others in their local communities.
Hardly fact - based.

This is an updated analysis that concludes it's about the same rate except for places like SLC.

Who's more charitable -- conservatives or liberals? - latimes

It also concludes Conservatives are more likely to donate to a church where only 10-25% of donations go to social causes while liberals are more likely to give to secular causes.

Without knowing the underpinnings of the 2000 survey, it's not possible to prove anything.

Almost 20 year old data does not reflect Gates, Buffet and Zuckerberg commitment to pledge their vast wealth to charity. This will likely be a huge game changer in terms of the pendulum for those who seem to enjoy tracking stuff like this.

And not all giving is equal. One guy may donate or match funds for a hospital or museum wing and in doing so, obtain naming rights. While that's swell, it does not feed an 90 year old who otherwise has no opportunity for a hot meal.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:43 PM
 
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Your husband could have taken meals to her. That's what families do. They take care of each other.
These meals are delivered hot around lunch time by volunteers, when working people are at work. This program can actually keep elderly in their homes longer. It saves money. We donated quite a bit extra than the cost of the meal when my mother used it. I will always support the program.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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This whole scenario makes it seem as if the plan is to suck as many nickels and dimes as possible from programs that benefit average Americans and then throw Benjamins at that five-sided building near Washington.
That, of course, is what you and your fellow SJW's want the public to believe, whereas the better answer would be to streamline the program, keep all the people actually on the front lines, and fourlough a few redundant administrators.

Want to guess which of the two groups has the stronger voice in Washington?
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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For years I volunteered for a county wide Meals on Wheels program run by Church Women United. The meals were paid for by the person getting them or through donations. The meals were prepared by nursing homes as they made lunch for their residents. Volunteers packed and delivered. People took a day or two, and had a regular route. That way they could check on the health and well being of the recipients. Most drivers entered the house to open cartons, etc. That enabled a brief visit. The meal could readily also be enough for dinner It had a salad, entree, 2 veggies, dessert, fresh fruit, bread and milk.

I told a relative to put her elderly in laws on the program in their town. The meals are now 8.00 each. Her in laws decided that lean Cuisine was better food and it was cheaper to hire a grocery shopper. The program they were on was tax payer funded and run by the county.
There are more than 5000 MoW chapters. Each receives some Federal Funding. All recipients of meals are asked to make a donation for their meals. Some do. Most do not.

Many recipients have no kitchen facilities or are not physically able to prepare their own meals.

Those with more means have more alternatives.
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:48 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Firstly, we currently have an all voluntary military. No draft, or involuntary conscription. If you don't want to serve, you don't have to.
Which has absolutely nothing to do with our military costing by most accounts as much as the next 7-10 nations' militaries combined.

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Secondly, Joe Machinist down the block can't just crank out military grade weapons voluntarily to "pitch in."
Which still does nothing to explain why a country surrounded by two oceans and two friendly nations should be so costly to defend.

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And Thirdly, national defense IS a Constitutionally enumerated responsibility of the Fed Gov, while Food Stamps, MoW, Medicaid, Section 8 Housing, and other social welfare programs are not. Those social programs are Constitutionally the purview of the states' and local governments.
So, you'll just conveniently ignore "promote the general Welfare"?
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Old 03-16-2017, 12:49 PM
 
Location: CT
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Let's see, he's reallocating $3B from the Community Development Block Grant program, because "those" people don't need it? They don't deserve it? They're going to die anyway? Too old to work? Unproductive? What's the reason to target a program like this which directly benefits the people, but not touch government programs that benefit the government? If you want an example, any cuts to congress' budget? Have they done such a fine job that they deserve everything they get?
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