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Old 03-17-2017, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Lone Mountain Las Vegas NV
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I wojlld second the educational value of PBS. My kins also grew up on it and their children.

I would again point out there is actually no real threat for NPR and PBS. It is the local affiliates...particularly those with sparse or poor clientele who are at risk. The Fed contribution is a small part of the PBS and NPR funding.
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Old 03-18-2017, 05:24 AM
 
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I have a different perspective. I grew up in a lower middle class immigrant community in Queens, NY and consumed a lot of PBS programming. From Reading Rainbow, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and Sesame Street as a young child, to Wild America, Nova and This Old House as I grew older... having shows like those available to me helped nurture the curiosity that led to multiple STEM degrees and a career that allows me to be a productive tax-paying citizen. It also provided more exposure to American culture, without the GI Joe and Stretch Armstrong toy commercials you would get on other stations.

When "educational" cable channels like Discovery and TLC are running shows like "Street Outlaws" and "My 600-lb Life", I think there's still an argument to be made for PBS and NPR, even for those lower on the socioeconomic spectrum.
"I grew up"

How many yeas ago was that?

We are NOT talking about the past. we ARE talking about TODAY.

With ALL the MONEY Sesame Street has made over all these years they could probably fund public broadcasting for the next 10 years.

Why should we give money to a place that makes MILLIONS?
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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I've been a sustaining member for years. Anyone who claims NPR news is left is literally talking out of their ass.
I agree. I lean to the right on most issues, sometimes some of the guest speakers lean to the left, but I use it as an opportunity to hear a second side of an issue. All of the time the hosts of the shows remain non partisan and I really enjoy that.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:14 PM
 
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I do agree their "science Friday" has good information sometimes.
Excellent.
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:17 PM
 
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Excellent article.

Thanks for the heads up!
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:47 PM
 
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"I grew up"

How many yeas ago was that?

We are NOT talking about the past. we ARE talking about TODAY.

With ALL the MONEY Sesame Street has made over all these years they could probably fund public broadcasting for the next 10 years.

Why should we give money to a place that makes MILLIONS?
They don't own Sesame Street. HBO does.
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Kent, Ohio
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Anytime there's a political issue, NPR ALWAYS has a "Unbiased debate" about whatever Foxnews is saying.
Here's one example of NPR repeating propaganda by "asking a question of why people keep on talking about it"

Why Do Doubts About Obama's Birthplace Persist? - July 2009
I deeply appreciate that you gave an example to support your view. I wish C-D had a policy of deleting any post that made a claim without offing some argument or evidence in support of the claim. That will never happen, of course, but it's a nice fantasy of mine because it would make this site vastly more useful.

Unfortunately, I don't see how your link to the Birthier debate supports your opinion. You put scare quotes around "unbiased debate" to presumably indicate that it is not really an unbiased report. In what way is it biased? This is not a rhetorical question, and I'm not just trying to be a smart-a**. I would genuinely like to understand your point of view. I have not read every page of the thread (I get exasperated by so many opinions with no arguments or evidence to support them), so if you have already addressed this, I would be happy with just a reference to the page number or post # in the thread. If it has not been addressed, I would love to hear someone explain it to me.

Or, alternatively, I would love to hear specific examples of NPR being biased. Obviously specific people being interviewed will be biased - that's just the nature of reality - but I'm looking for examples of how NPR's reporting, is biased. (I don't really doubt that they are biased to some extent - I just want some examples of this.)

As I see it, any vague accusation or controversial general claim that is made without some example or evidence to support the claim is annoying and almost completely useless.

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Old 03-19-2017, 07:58 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Imagine if Rush Limbaugh got federal money to run his show....sigh. (They're NOWHERE near as bad as him but most rational people understand the point.)
Rush Limbaugh is a blowhard pundit. NPR is light years away from that sort of nonsense.

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I don't think they should be eliminated. But I do think they should be asked to cover less partisan subjects, or at least cover them in a less-biased way.
As has been pointed out already, NPR is pretty middle of the road.

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So why can't NPR as well as PBS throw in enough advertising to pay for themselves? Or let Clear Channel just buy the whole NPR network outright. I agree the era of government sponsored radio or television has long past.
Apparently you're unaware that Clear Channel no longer exists. And the era of government sponsored radio is still very much necessary, especially NPR in rural areas where there is little or no radio coverage.

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I've been a sustaining member for years. Anyone who claims NPR news is left is literally talking out of their ass.
Just seconding your post. Thanks.

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I don't listen to NPR often. I would say there are more stories of interest to the left than the right. But looking at their news homepage the stories even about Trump seem straightforward.
So, maybe you should listen more often and educate yourself.

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I have a different perspective. I grew up in a lower middle class immigrant community in Queens, NY and consumed a lot of PBS programming. From Reading Rainbow, Mr. Rogers Neighborhood and Sesame Street as a young child, to Wild America, Nova and This Old House as I grew older... having shows like those available to me helped nurture the curiosity that led to multiple STEM degrees and a career that allows me to be a productive tax-paying citizen. It also provided more exposure to American culture, without the GI Joe and Stretch Armstrong toy commercials you would get on other stations.
Excellent! I was too old for PBS' kids programming when it came about, but was able to see the profound effect it had on kids and how they learn, no matter their socio-economic background.

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With ALL the MONEY Sesame Street has made over all these years they could probably fund public broadcasting for the next 10 years.
PBS does not own, nor has it ever owned, Sesame Street. Perhaps you're unaware of how public broadcasting works, or how PBS affiliates obtain programming.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:00 PM
 
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I like NPR.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Make them compete for listeners like everyone else. Let's see how far their left wings views sell.
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