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Old 03-17-2017, 05:46 PM
 
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Just to be clear the whole "nursing shortage" in the USA is complicated and not wholly true universally.


Here in New York City for instance there isn't any such thing; if or when a hospital says it has a "shortage" they mean of a nurse with specific experience and training. New graduates/licensed nurses? We've got them in such numbers many leave the city and state to find work elsewhere.


By and large where you find any shortage of nurses today in USA there are several common factors. Geographic location, working conditions and wages/compensation are usually near the top.


North Dakota has a problem finding nurses, well because it is *North Dakota*. Not everyone is keen on those long harsh winters for a start.


Florida offers a wonderful climate, but the pay for professional nurses, and often working conditions aren't that great.


In general newly licensed nurses tend to prefer living/working in their local community. That is someone who lives in Atlanta, GA goes to school there, graduates and upon licensure wants to work in or near that area. Not every nurse can or wants to pack up and move across country.




https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ortage/459741/
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Too bad Canada's socialist economy sucks so bad that Canadians have to come here to work.
You sound very provincial.
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Old 04-26-2017, 06:51 PM
 
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Look like Trump is ready to withdraw from NAFTA. I am a Canadian citizen working in the US via the NAFTA TN-1 permit.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:45 PM
 
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Who's going to take care of all the Canadians that come here because socialized medicine in Canada sucks?
You mean that less than one half of one percent who obtain healthcare in the U.S. and for the most part it's those who take ill while down there?

Meanwhile:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...united-states/

Excerpt: "His calculation of 251,000 deaths equates to nearly 700 deaths a day — about 9.5 percent of all deaths annually in the United States."

The CDC should update its vital statistics reporting requirements so that physicians must report whether there was any error that led to a preventable death, Makary said.

“We all know how common it is,” he said. “We also know how infrequently it’s openly discussed.”


Now THAT sucks!
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:51 PM
 
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Just to be clear the whole "nursing shortage" in the USA is complicated and not wholly true universally.


Here in New York City for instance there isn't any such thing; if or when a hospital says it has a "shortage" they mean of a nurse with specific experience and training. New graduates/licensed nurses? We've got them in such numbers many leave the city and state to find work elsewhere.


By and large where you find any shortage of nurses today in USA there are several common factors. Geographic location, working conditions and wages/compensation are usually near the top.


North Dakota has a problem finding nurses, well because it is *North Dakota*. Not everyone is keen on those long harsh winters for a start.


Florida offers a wonderful climate, but the pay for professional nurses, and often working conditions aren't that great.


In general newly licensed nurses tend to prefer living/working in their local community. That is someone who lives in Atlanta, GA goes to school there, graduates and upon licensure wants to work in or near that area. Not every nurse can or wants to pack up and move across country.




https://www.theatlantic.com/health/a...ortage/459741/
So there is a shortage of nurses available in some areas. Nothing complicated about that. Detroit is obviously one of those areas.
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Old 04-26-2017, 08:53 PM
 
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Too bad Canada's socialist economy sucks so bad that Canadians have to come here to work.
Ahhhh-- ignorance is not bliss.

Along the border towns there is more back and forth with employers/employees/trade etc.

Obviously not in your bubble.

That's the problem with the USA -- everyone just stays in their bubble and assumes life is the same in the whole country.

Ignorance.
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Old 04-26-2017, 09:06 PM
 
Location: Eastern UP of Michigan
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Ahhhh-- ignorance is not bliss.

Along the border towns there is more back and forth with employers/employees/trade etc.

Obviously not in your bubble.

That's the problem with the USA -- everyone just stays in their bubble and assumes life is the same in the whole country.

Ignorance.

Our little town in the UP of Michigan 18Kish has a sister city across the International Bridge in Canada with a population of 75Kish.


I am amazed at the number of cars from Canada shopping at our Walmart here.
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