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Old 03-22-2017, 11:16 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
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Right...so the libertarian balanced budget conservative is advocating for large government healthcare? Wrong, he's been pretty consistent on this issue: complete repeal, free market/no gov subsidies, lower healthcare cost plan all along.
There is no "free market" healthcare. Free market healthcare is a make believe pipe dream. In the real world we call it "Pay up or die". Either you pay the exorbitant fee or you die/go bankrupt ... you know, like in the good old days before evil Obamacare came along.
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Old 03-22-2017, 11:32 AM
 
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There is no "free market" healthcare. Free market healthcare is a make believe pipe dream. In the real world we call it "Pay up or die". Either you pay the exorbitant fee or you die/go bankrupt ... you know, like in the good old days before evil Obamacare came along.
When insurance companies (that don't compete across state lines) make record profits and pharma companies charge outrageous prices for their prescriptions and much higher than other countries that tells me we don't have a true free market and improvements need to be made. You can have a free market, 'pay or die' is what has lead to these rising costs
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:08 PM
 
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From challenging the establishment on healthcare and putting forth his own plan, constantly destroying neocon John McCain in debates and calling out Bernie Sanders hypocrisy, Paul seems to be on the rise.

With democrats entrenched in resist mode and establishment republicans recycling the same old plans Rand seems to be the only one fighting for a real solution to our healthcare debacle. He points out how the Ryan plan will not address rising costs and refuses to let this bill pass.

Rand seems to stand out as the only one with any common sense left in our dysfunctional congress.
" Is Rand Paul becoming the most powerful voice in Congress?"

NO, he is a strict Libertarian and wants "isolationism"

He will NEVER be president because he will NEVER get the majority (he couldn't even get on the "A" table at the debates) to vote for him.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:10 PM
 
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He was polling in first before Trump entered the arena. And crying in the wilderness? Far from it, take a look at Nacy Pelosi for that.
"He was polling in first"

We saw how accurate the polls were!

Didn't they say Hillary was going wipe the street with Trump.

Look at how that turned out.

I'd be embarrassed to even bring them up becuae of the terrible job they did.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:11 PM
 
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I don't see how being a voice crying in the wilderness without a lot of followers makes him "the most powerful voice in Washington". You saw how powerful he was when he ran for President. He's a gadfly, nothing more, at this point.
This response tells us a heck of a lot more about you than it does Paul.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:15 PM
 
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I like a lot of what Rand is saying, compared to most of the Republican establishment.
Thankfully the VAST MAJOITY of voters do NOT agree with you.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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Thankfully the VAST MAJOITY of voters do NOT agree with you.
Do you think majority is a valid point in the establishment of validity? If so, then you don't understand anything about this countries form of government.
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:24 PM
 
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I really admire rand paul but Libertarians are just losers for the most part, they love to debate but dont get much done. I say this as a former libertarian , the libertarian party couldnt get a dog catcher elected under the party banner

Rand pauls father, Ron Paul, is a brilliant guy but he had to run as a republican and in his entire 23 years in congress he only got one bill he introduced passed
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Old 03-22-2017, 12:28 PM
 
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He was polling in first before Trump entered the arena. And crying in the wilderness? Far from it, take a look at Nacy Pelosi for that.
want to show us some links to real polls that put Rand in the lead .......
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Old 03-22-2017, 02:26 PM
 
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I really like him for his independent thinking, but he doesn't seem to have many colleagues who agree with him. For that reason alone, he's not very powerful.
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