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Old 03-17-2017, 11:22 AM
 
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Do you agree with the increases to the defense budget?
I'm for supporting our troops and providing for what they need yes.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:24 AM
 
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Are you ready to give up pretty much every modern technology in order to stop using oil?
No, it means that I understand why we cannot simply keep our noses to ourselves.

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We could stop getting any of the oil we use from the ME, and they'd still have plenty of funding from the rest of the world buying their oil.
Exactly. This is a global issue.

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The only thing oil has to do with this is that without oil, nobody would really care what was happening in the ME and that is where their funding comes from; however, many, many regular people in the ME, who have nothing to do with terrorism, benefit from that natural resource.
Yes again. And it will never gel with this irrational isolationism Trump and team are trying to sell.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:14 PM
 
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NY Times: Who Wins and Loses in Trump’s Proposed Budget


Some highlights:


Environmental Protection Agency:


State and other development programs:



Health and Human Services:


Commerce:


Interior:


Energy:


Homeland Security:


Defense:



Themes arising to me (none of which are surprising):
Scientific and environmental programs down - military, resource acquisition, and defense up
"Who Wins and Loses in Trump’s Proposed Budget "

NOBODY because the Senate will NOT vote to accept it.

Most president's budgets are Dead On Arrival.

Just like Obam seldom got 1 or 2 votes for the proposal.

In some case he couldn't even get 1 DEM senator to vote for it.

It is a formality "proposal".

Nothing more, nothing less.

The Senate and the House will work on their OWN budgets, then get together to come up with 1 budget to vote on.

Unless the Senate is run by dem like harry reid, "A budget, we don't NEED a budget"
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:21 PM
 
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Yes again. And it will never gel with this irrational isolationism Trump and team are trying to sell.
Isolationism keeps our troops out of places like the ME and cuts military spending.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:33 PM
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You libs are crazy. Here's from the WSJ:

The annual federal budget is now more than $4 trillion, so the White House is proposing to shift a mere 1.35% of that to defense from other priorities. That’s it.

The proposal is a 10% increase over the 2018 budget cap set by the Budget Control Act. But it is only about 3% above what Barack Obama proposed in his final budget as he tried to neutralize the defense issue during the presidential campaign

As for cutting domestic non-entitlement programs, it’s hard to argue that the federal government couldn’t use a top-to-bottom scrub. Would the American people even notice if the Agriculture and Labor departments had to cut their budgets by 20.7%, or Commerce by 15.7%?
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:33 PM
 
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Isolationism keeps our troops out of places like the ME and cuts military spending.
Isolationism is a ruse.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:34 PM
 
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Trump loses. It will not pass in the current form.
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:38 PM
 
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Isolationism is a ruse.
How so?

Isolationism keeps us out, militarily and politically, of the business of other countries.

Isolationism shifts consumer goods to domestic production.

Isolationism greatly reduces the hundreds of billions of dollars of domestic wealth annually shipped out of our country via trade deficits.

I'm guessing you are a believer in fiat currency and that trade deficits don't matter?
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Old 03-17-2017, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Virginia
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You libs are crazy. Here's from the WSJ:

The annual federal budget is now more than $4 trillion, so the White House is proposing to shift a mere 1.35% of that to defense from other priorities. That’s it.
But the discretionary budget is only $1 trillion, and of that, DOD is 50%. So that "mere 1.35%" is actually upwards of 15% to 30% for the affected agencies while only benefiting DOD by 5%.

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The proposal is a 10% increase over the 2018 budget cap set by the Budget Control Act. But it is only about 3% above what Barack Obama proposed in his final budget as he tried to neutralize the defense issue during the presidential campaign
This is exactly why the "libs" are going crazy. You cant yell, scream, and shutdown the government over balanced budgets for 8 years and then all of a sudden accept deficit spending as normal. The only change here is on what the deficit spending is for.

Remember at one point when we actually had congressmen signing balanced budget pledges?
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Old 03-17-2017, 01:06 PM
 
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Hmmm. Somehow I think the rich will win and everyone else loses. But that's only based on facts.
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