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0bama just added $10 trillion to the debt, so where is our "free higher education for 50 years?"
During 0bama's two terms he added $10 trillion in new debt, and who got rich? It sure as hell was not the poor, because we expanded the number of people living in poverty in the USA, reaching a fifty year high with the US poverty level.
The rich got richer under 0bama, and the poor got poorer, even while he was spending more money then anyone in human history had before.
He added debt getting us out of a great recession. Trump will add to the debt to satiate a racist wet willy and the abject stupidity of him and his cabinet.
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You guys say that every year, and each year most of the poor who file income taxes end up getting back a tax return higher than the taxes withheld.
You're not making sense. I'm saying under Trump the poor with have a higher tax liability and they will. Just as they did under Bush.
eta: with that said, I cannot say I'm terribly concerned about the poor. I'm more concerned about him getting us into another recession as repubs tend to do.
So all you left wingers out there that despise our military and want it to go away...and want the budget for it slashed drastically further or eliminated, I have a question. What would we or should we do if we are attacked on our own soil?
and you do realize the budget for the military was already slashed big time in the last eight years? But hey, they are all a bunch of baby killers to you left wingers.
Let's see, our defense budget is bigger than anybody else's by a huge margin. I'm not going to argue if it is bigger than the next 3, 8, 10, or 14 combined, it does not matter. And that does not even include some intelligence agencies, DOE stockpile and so on.
I don't buy into the liberal progressive message in many ways (anti-capitalism, anti-wealth, pro-patriarchy social legislation), but of course we should have universal healthcare.
Taxes do not make the wealthy poorer. If you are poor you will be paying more in traxes under Trump.
Taking money from people through taxation makes people poorer. Calling them "wealthy" makes them no less a victim.
He added debt getting us out of a great recession.
The Great Recession ended in June 2009 before any of 0bama's policies went into effect, so get your facts straight.
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Originally Posted by Cassy Fae
You're not making sense. I'm saying under Trump the poor with have a higher tax liability and they will. Just as they did under Bush.
eta: with that said, I cannot say I'm terribly concerned about the poor. I'm more concerned about him getting us into another recession as repubs tend to do.
Most of the poor will still not pay any federal income taxes. For example, if $2,500 in federal income taxes are withheld, the standard deduction wipes it all out, and most people will get more money back, than the taxes that were withheld.
Taking money from people through taxation makes people poorer. Calling them "wealthy" makes them no less a victim.
Oh, so you want to protect the wealthy from paying taxes. Poor million and billionaires. Can you explain to me why? They have every advantage in life. The best food. The best schools. The best housing. A good lot do not actually produce anything of value. They move money around/invest/participate in activities that resulted in the last recession. They are not providing the research that saves lives, keeps our water clean, and our environment safe. So, what is it?
How do we win? Increased spending, higher deficits, and all so that we can increase military spending on a military budget so large that we could probably take on the entire world and manage to win?
I mean if you have some world domination goal where we take on the world, and subjugate them...well maybe then.
I guess you didn't get the memo that the world is now an extremely dangerous place. Arguably, more dangerous than ever before with unpredictable countries like North Korea, Russia and Iran having nukes. On top of that, we have the most elusive enemy in Islamic terrorist who wants to destroy the US. And the most evil group of human beings since the Nazis. They are called ISIS.
I guess you didn't get the memo that the world is now an extremely dangerous place. Arguably, more dangerous than ever before with unpredictable countries like North Korea, Russia and Iran having nukes. On top of that, we have the most elusive enemy in Islamic terrorist who wants to destroy the US. And the most evil group of human beings since the Nazis. They are called ISIS.
Yes, and isn't Trump going to handle it all with sophistication, intelligence, and measure.
Oh, so you want to protect the wealthy from paying taxes. Poor million and billionaires. Can you explain to me why? They have every advantage in life. The best food. The best schools. The best housing. A good lot do not actually produce anything of value. They move money around/invest/participate in activities that resulted in the last recession. They are not providing the research that saves lives, keeps our water clean, and our environment safe. So, what is it?
Your greed is showing.
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