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Old 03-18-2017, 06:55 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Hopefully there are people still out there doing that, but sadly there are people out there who aren't. Instead, it's more like teaching them to dislike everyone because they did bad things, and to totally
disregard any good they did.
It's more like people giving the ruling elite a pass.

The Founders, and everyone, should be called out for their actions when those actions step on our rights. Those in charge should be held to the highest standards when it comes to violating rights.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading something stating that George Washington wasn't actually legally allowed to just set them all free no questions asked.
"In 1780, Pennsylvania passed the Gradual Abolition Act, a law that freed people after they turned 28 and that automatically freed any slave who moved to the state and lived there for more than six months." Slaves already in state before 1780, were slaves for life.

"if the non-resident slaveholder took his slaves out of Pennsylvania before the 6-month deadline, it would void his slaves' residency. The 1788 Amendment prohibited this rotation of slaves in and out-of-state to subvert Pennsylvania law."
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:35 AM
 
Location: Steeler Nation
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The man was a hypocrite.


How is someone going to fight for their freedom and then deny it to their fellow man?

There is also info out there that George Washington might have been raping his slaves.
Not to mention the numerous Native American massacres.

Oh yeah,someone we should admire!
Unless you have proof of him raping his slaves, it didn't happen and as far as the massacres, that generally did not take place until we started migrating west, and the Native Americans were just as bad, attacking with no provocation what so ever.
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:40 PM
 
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We tell them that every person has their flaws and that it's okay to make mistakes.
But that's not what is happening. Instead, at least as pertains to historical white males, the kids are being taught that they were horrible people.
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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"the peace- and diversity-centered curriculum she gets at her public school..." and she's 7? Egads.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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But that's not what is happening. Instead, at least as pertains to historical white males, the kids are being taught that they were horrible people.
-shrug- When my daughter was learning about MLK Jr (for instance), she learned about his contributions and flaws.

When she learns about people like Margaret Sanger, she'll learn the good and bad as well.

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Oh lord, yes People are flawed. On the other side of the coin, isn't denigrating everyone based on their worst behaviors and ignoring their good teaching children to be judgemental and condescending? If I looked at every person I met and did that, I'd have NO friends. How about just simply learning from our mistakes, and not repeating the past?
The child in question already learned about the good things he did, so it wasn't like you describe at all. You can teach both the good and bad of the past without worry of the child becoming condescending and judgmental towards everyone.

To point up to my response about Margaret Sanger. To today's standards, she had some more problematic views, but she also did a lot of work towards the legalization of contraceptives. So do we just teach the good things she did or should we also include the bad?
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:04 PM
 
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i think the mother would have liked if the daughter would have admired lenin,stalin, marx, Trotsky, mao and castro
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Old 03-18-2017, 04:16 PM
 
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"the peace- and diversity-centered curriculum she gets at her public school..." and she's 7? Egads.
If they were honest it would be called "How the white straight men are evil curriculum".
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Old 03-20-2017, 11:05 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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He could have kept them enslaved.

Do you understand that?
Your defending Slavery by saying he freed them at death. How on earth can you even type that ?????

Mind you , he only did so because he thought his wife's life was in danger.
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Back in the 1600's that was a huge deal. If he hadn't specified that they were to be freed, the State would have taken them and resold them into Slavery or divided them up to his surviving family members. Back then, probably everyone he knew owned Slaves and could have cared less what happened to them after they died. He may have been ridiculed or chided by his friends/neighbors on his final wishes.
George Washington died in 1799 and there were 600,000 free black people in the US at the time. It was not uncommon, nor frowned upon. And he said in his own words he would have let his wife keep them if he did not believe the slaves would kill her.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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When you don't hold people accountable they'll continue to try and get away with what they want. Especially when you put them on a pedestal.
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