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Old 03-17-2017, 07:11 PM
 
Location: US
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Wait a minute. The OP's article and the article below show the US targeted a building next to a mosque where Al Qaeda militants were meeting, made a precision strike that hit the building, did not target and did not hit the mosque, a person on this list posted an aerial picture showing the mosque still standing, the OP says he does not have all the info, and nobody does really, and people are STILL having a Maddow moment over bombing Christians, it was botched, calling Trump supporters idiots, etc.

ISIS is running Christians over with tanks, burning them alive, drowning them in cages, dragging them to pieces, hacking them up piece by piece, beheading them, and I don't see any Trump haters on this list saying jack about that. Nobody said word one about Aleppo when those innocents were being destroyed by rebels and Assad.

I wish we didn't have to be over there. Stop, please. I know you can't be that limited in mind.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/16/w...-in-syria.html
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:16 PM
 
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We don't have to be over there. The "Rebels" and Assad aren't even on the same side.
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Old 03-17-2017, 07:21 PM
 
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We don't have to be over there. The "Rebels" and Assad aren't even on the same side.
I can agree with this.

No matter how it ends, our reputation will suffer and we will gain some intractable enemies.
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:34 PM
 
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I can agree with this.

No matter how it ends, our reputation will suffer and we will gain some intractable enemies.
I don't see how our reputation will suffer from Syria.


It couldn't be from Obama lying about evidence so he could try to escalate things.

President Obama accused of lying over Syrian intelligence in sarin gas attack by award-winning journalist Seymour Hersh | Daily Mail Online


It couldn't be from Obama repeatedly arming ISIS on accident while looking for mythical moderate rebels.

Tulsi Gabbard Says U.S. Is Funding And Arming ISIS | The Daily Caller

U.S. Shoots Itself In the Foot By Accidentally Arming ISIS | The Fiscal Times

Biden

Amnesty report: ISIS armed with U.S. weapons - CNNPolitics.com


It couldn't be Obama's red line that wasn't enforced and then the lie that he didn't make a red line.

Obama’s Blurry Red Line


It couldn't be Obama saying 16 times that he would NOT put boots on the ground inside of Syria and then doing it.

16 times Obama said there would be no boots on the ground in Syria


It couldn't be that Obama said defeating ISIS is only possible if Assad is gone - it is not like that would create a power-vacuum that we didn't see in Libya or Iraq.

Obama: Defeating ISIS Hinges on Syria Regime Change -- News from Antiwar.com


It couldn't be that Obama reduced the standards for using drones in Syria so that civilian deaths would become more acceptable.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-hou...183724795.html


It couldn't be that Obama called anyone who opposed his desire for greater war in Syria an isolationist.

https://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/05/w...isis.html?_r=1

Etc....
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:42 PM
 
Location: So Cal
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As Mr. Lahey would say, "It's a G - D S storm Randy."
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Old 03-17-2017, 08:59 PM
 
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As Mr. Lahey would say, "It's a G - D S storm Randy."
That must have been before he was back on the bottle, due to the lack of a slur.
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Old 03-17-2017, 09:37 PM
 
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I don't see how our reputation will suffer from Syria.
Anytime we put our young people in harm's way for middle eastern countries it is a thankless sacrifice.

Our nation gets the blame for everything that goes wrong afterward.

It is a quagmire we would be best to avoid.
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Old 03-17-2017, 11:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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Yet you don't wonder how many innocents Bush killed with manned aircraft strikes?

WHY is that?

Or are you just using a thread about Trump to make a gratuitous whine about Obama?
Considering Obama was the recipient of the Nobel peace prize he should be held to a higher standard. Considering he got us into wars with 3 more countries, back into Iraq, in addition to destabilizing Syria, and trading Terrorist for Deserters he is fair game.

When Trump starts trading Terrorist for Deserters who go back to killing Americans and our Allies I'll hold him in the same regard as the Nobel Peace prize winning President
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:16 AM
 
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Hate to tell you this but the US doesn't stand a chance in a war against 1.6 billion people. We actually depend on the fact that some of them are on our side.
Wrong.

We have about 20,000 nuclear weapons and we could eliminate all 1.6 billion of them in a matter of hours.

But it would only take using one or two nukes for them to get the message.

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Turn the entire region into a glass factory and I won't loose any sleep...
Load 'em up fellas... NEXT....
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So its genocide you're wanting eh? How very nice of you...
Genocide if necessary.

In a war, you defeat or kill the enemy. They either surrender or they die.

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Lol. I see a lot of ignorance in this thread.

You know that insurgents understand our rules of engagement, right? You know they use this knowledge to their advantage, right? You know they attack us from schools, hospitals, graveyards, mosques, and other buildings that we aren't supposed to strike, right? You know that they do this because it's a lose-lose for us, right? You know that either our hands are tied and we take needless casualties, or we strike and allow them to spread negative propaganda about us, right?

Sheesh people. 99% of y'all have never seen combat, nor do you understand how the game is played over there.
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And that makes it ok to kill women, children, the sick, and worshippers? No it does not. Just because the enemy lowers their standards does not make it ok for you to lower yours. Nevermind the fact that killing civilians just helps the enemy, they feed on the hatred that stems from those deaths. A pretty stupid way to wage a war.
Doing whatever is necessary to defeat the enemy is the intelligent way to wage war.

Whatever is necessary means whatever is necessary.

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Wow.......I'll give you credit for not hiding your bigotry.
Being opposed to the bigoted religion of Islam -- which is bigoted against gays, women, Christians, Jews and all non-Muslims -- is not being a bigot.

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It's sad to see people so hopped up on fear that they will condone the maiming and killing of innocent people just because they follow a different religion than yours.
Muslims are not innocent by definition. See above.

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Just curious, since you're being so candid about your hated, what other creeds and nationalities fall under your umbrella of genocide?
Anyone who would defend Islam and its adherents.

There is, of course, no need for any war or violence at all. Islam can reform and choose to live in peace with others. The choice is theirs to make.

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ISIS is running Christians over with tanks, burning them alive, drowning them in cages, dragging them to pieces, hacking them up piece by piece, beheading them, and I don't see any Trump haters on this list saying jack about that.
Muslim apologists don't care about any of that.

They hate white Christian America and Western Civilization in general and will support anything from the Third World that threatens them.

They'll even throw gays, women, human rights, individual freedom and Democracy under the bus in the process.

They are as much the enemy as Muslim terrorists are.
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:46 AM
 
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Wrong.

We have about 20,000 nuclear weapons and we could eliminate all 1.6 billion of them in a matter of hours.
Those are suicide bombs.

It would not take many of them to go off without bringing disaster on us all.
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Genocide if necessary.

In a war, you defeat or kill the enemy. They either surrender or they die.
Your logic is incomprehensible.

You can not declare war on 1.6 billion people just because of their religion.

You are out of your mind.
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