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Old 03-21-2017, 05:45 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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tTRUMP's cabinet is filled with Billionaires and Goldman Sachs bankers. The Piggies of Wall Street love this set-up.
True, but it isn't like Hillary Clinton would have been any better. And she received far more money from them than Trump.


The problem is the system. Nothing is going to change, so long as we keep the same system. And the truth is, you are never going to fundamentally change a system by voting. It would take a revolution.

And as Marx would say, it would take a worldwide revolution. A revolution in only one country wouldn't change anything. They would be cut-off, surrounded, and destroyed.


I don't see it happening. And the Democratic party works for the corporations just as much as the Republicans. What other choice do they have?
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Old 03-21-2017, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Former land of plenty
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True, but it isn't like Hillary Clinton would have been any better. And she received far more money from them than Trump.


The problem is the system. Nothing is going to change, so long as we keep the same system. And the truth is, you are never going to fundamentally change a system by voting. It would take a revolution.

And as Marx would say, it would take a worldwide revolution. A revolution in only one country wouldn't change anything. They would be cut-off, surrounded, and destroyed.


I don't see it happening. And the Democratic party works for the corporations just as much as the Republicans. What other choice do they have?
How many banksters were there in Obama's cabinet? I bet you won't answer that because the truth doesn't fit your agenda.
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Old 03-21-2017, 05:50 AM
 
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That being said, Trump hired Wall Street fat cats as campaign finance chair and begged them for money during the campaign.
How do you know he begged them for money? How do you know they gave him any?

I think you're just making this up.

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Thats why he has hired half of Goldman Sachs, the most powerful economic force on Wall Street, as part of his administration.
Who would you hire? Barney down the street?

These guys know what's going on. Barney doesn't.

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You are as deluded as democrats under Obama who thought Obama bringing in Wall Street big wigs into his administration was some type of chess move. No, its just the usual pay-for-play political corruption.
You have no evidence to support that claim.
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Old 03-21-2017, 05:54 AM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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How many banksters were there in Obama's cabinet? I bet you won't answer that because the truth doesn't fit your agenda.
What does it matter if they were in his cabinet? Is that the only way to be owned by the banks?


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Old 03-21-2017, 05:54 AM
 
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Yup. You'll notice that the right wing still embraces trickle down economics.
They embrace it because it works.

It worked for President Kennedy and President Reagan.

Reducing taxes and regulations stimulates economic growth, which in the long run actually increases the amount of money coming into the treasury.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:02 AM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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The point being that the GOP you support is just an extended arm of the corrupt oligarchy that doesnt serve the people. You cant serve both big money and the people. You have to choose. As long as people refuse to fight to get big money out of politics and claim that legalized bribery is the "American Way", nothing is going to change. Trump has already nominated a supreme court justice who is a firm believer in this legalized corruption.
There you go again....you clearly haven't been reading my posts. I no more support the GOP than you do.

Now, support your charge against Gorsuch.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:07 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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Yup. You'll notice that the right wing still embraces trickle down economics.
Okay, liberal genius. Please tell us what would work then?

We're willing to try whatever you think will work best. Oops, we've already tried that. Eight years of Obama. Obviously that didn't work or else there wouldn't be a Trump right now.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:09 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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It's easy to sit home on your keyboards with all your theories but a whole other story when you are in office trying to run a country with 300 million people, trillion dollar economy and millions of issues and problems.

Fact is, in order to run a country you need money. It's easy to say, "fight corporations, etc." but corporations do contribute mightily to the economy. They contribute taxes and provide jobs, without which, a leader will quickly get disposed of by the voters.

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Old 03-21-2017, 06:15 AM
 
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How do you know he begged them for money? How do you know they gave him any?

I think you're just making this up.

Who would you hire? Barney down the street?

These guys know what's going on. Barney doesn't.

You have no evidence to support that claim.
"Trump has to pack his administration with half of Government Sachs. They know what is going on!"

You speak like a firm believer in Wall Street corruption. Its just as deluded as the Obama crowd defending Wall Street corruption when he was in charge.
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Old 03-21-2017, 06:19 AM
 
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Let me just preface that I am not a Democrat. I didnt even vote for Hillary.

That being said, Trump hired Wall Street fat cats as campaign finance chair and begged them for money during the campaign. Thats why he has hired half of Goldman Sachs, the most powerful economic force on Wall Street, as part of his administration. You are as deluded as democrats under Obama who thought Obama bringing in Wall Street big wigs into his administration was some type of chess move. No, its just the usual pay-for-play political corruption. And these financial overlords do not allow their politicians to serve the people. Notice how little the corporate Democrats actually talk about real pro-labor economic issues to oppose the extreme billionaire class agenda of Trump. Their donors do not allow them to. Instead they focus on social issues.
Let's look at the leaders of the Congress.

Paul Ryan, 6 of his top 10 donors are Blackstone Group (hedge fund), Bank of America, Pfizer, BCBS, and Berkshire Hathaway (so he's funded by Warren Buffett, ironic?). Does that sound like somebody interested in reforms for the "little people" in Appalachia? He's vested in deregulation for banks and big pharma and corporate welfare for insurance companies. Warren Buffett also funds him, isn't he supposed to be some Democrat Boogeyman?

Mitch McConnell's top 10, Blackstone Group, Goldman Sachs, Kindred Healthcare, Humana, BCBS, JP Morgan, and Citigroup. What does that tell you? These are not men interested in any kind of reform that would benefit any of us on this site
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