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Once you find and PROVE anyone is or has. That hasn't happened as of yet.
Funny thing this thread, all these hundreds of opinions,accusations,statements of "fact" etc from both sides seem to be all hot air as of today with NO real,meaty evidence has been put forth as of yet that solidly lays blame or proves any collusion on anyone for any thing.
You could list what is known and proven to be true on a small sticky note.
Yet, it's not so difficult to figure out what happened.
The Obama administration was spying on Trump's campaign. After Trump won, they knew they couldn't cover it up. So, they invented the ridiculous narrative of "Trump colluded with Russia" to give themselves some cover for their own illegal activity, which dwarfs Watergate.
And here we are. Predictably, the same left wing party hacks who believed and argued for the "a preplanned terror attack was caused by a YouTube video" B.S. are making the case for the even more ridiculous lie/whopper of "Russian collusion with Trump."
These people really have no morals or decency. They are either dumb as rocks or think the rest of us are.
Yet, it's not so difficult to figure out what happened.
The Obama administration was spying on Trump's campaign. After Trump won, they knew they couldn't cover it up. So, they invented the ridiculous narrative of "Trump colluded with Russia" to give themselves some cover for their own illegal activity, which dwarfs Watergate.
And here we are. Predictably, the same left wing party hacks who believed and argued for the "a preplanned terror attack was caused by a YouTube video" B.S. are making the case for the even more ridiculous lie/whopper of "Russian collusion with Trump."
These people really have no morals or decency. They are either dumb as rocks or think the rest of us are.
You all voted for a con man and you're calling others dumb?
Oh that's rich.
We have two narratives going. One is backed by the intelligence community and the other by Trump, Breitbart, and Fox News.
Guess time will tell which one is a nutball CYA conspiracy theory and which one is backed by evidence.
Oh look.. He's got frequent flyer miles just for Moscow.
Yup/ dumb as rocks... you're definitely right about that. Or maybe some folks just got beat in the noggin by a bag of them..
Not saying you are wrong in your assumption BUT you're only seeing one small snippet of one side of the (A) story.
As I've said before, there is NO actual hard core evidence to prove anything solid for either side. There are snippets here and there, leaks that we don't know if it's the whole set of information or, just a part to push an agenda etc,etc,etc.
You all voted for a con man and you're calling others dumb?
Oh that's rich.
We have two narratives going. One is backed by the intelligence community and the other by Trump, Breitbart, and Fox News.
Guess time will tell which one is a nutball CYA conspiracy theory and which one is backed by evidence.
Which is your partisan view that might or might not be the actual truth... If you hate Trump then what you and others say makes sense, if you like Trump then what you say makes no sense and the Obama admin was out to get him in order to get Hillary elected. If you don't care one way or the other about Trump, well, you wait for actual facts and proof to come out either way...
Not saying you are wrong in your assumption BUT you're only seeing one small snippet of one side of the (A) story.
As I've said before, there is NO actual hard core evidence to prove anything solid for either side. There are snippets here and there, leaks that we don't know if it's the whole set of information or, just a part to push an agenda etc,etc,etc.
There is no evidence whatsoever on the Obama wiretapped Trump narrative. Nothing but baseless accusations and spin about why they keep showing up in counterespionage investigations.
However, there is a growing body of evidence on the Trump-Russian connections. Page, Flynn, Manafort, Stone... lots of evidence linking these guys to the Kremlin. Secretary of Commerce Ross was involved in a bank known for laundering money for Russian oligarchs. The server connecting the Kremlin bank and someone in the Trump organization. ...
Flynn has offered to tell his story in exchange for immunity. Giuliani is looking for a deal. Page is giving interviews all over town.
Tons of evidence that there were connections and communications.
Which is your partisan view that might or might not be the actual truth... If you hate Trump then what you and others say makes sense, if you like Trump then what you say makes no sense and the Obama admin was out to get him in order to get Hillary elected. If you don't care one way or the other about Trump, well, you wait for actual facts and proof to come out either way...
The facts are coming out and none of them support the accusation that Obama wiretapped Trump or that Rice exposed Flynn or anyone else for that matter.
There is no evidence whatsoever on the Obama wiretapped Trump narrative. Nothing but baseless accusations and spin about why they keep showing up in counterespionage investigations.
However, there is a growing body of evidence on the Trump-Russian connections. Page, Flynn, Manafort, Stone... lots of evidence linking these guys to the Kremlin. Secretary of Commerce Ross was involved in a bank known for laundering money for Russian oligarchs. The server connecting the Kremlin bank and someone in the Trump organization. ...
Flynn has offered to tell his story in exchange for immunity. Giuliani is looking for a deal. Page is giving interviews all over town.
Tons of evidence that there were connections and communications.
Just like there was "growing evidence" that a YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorst attack.
One of the two "sides" has a proven history of lying to the American people, baselessly smearing their political opponents, and using the federal government as a weapon against their opponents. It isn't Trump, either.
You and the left have ZERO credibility. You blew it a long, long time ago.
Just like there was "growing evidence" that a YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorst attack.
One of the two "sides" has a proven history of lying to the American people, baselessly smearing their political opponents, and using the federal government as a weapon against their opponents. It isn't Trump, either.
You and the left have ZERO credibility. You blew it a long, long time ago.
Just like there was "growing evidence" that a YouTube video caused a preplanned terrorst attack.
One of the two "sides" has a proven history of lying to the American people, baselessly smearing their political opponents, and using the federal government as a weapon against their opponents. It isn't Trump, either.
You and the left have ZERO credibility. You blew it a long, long time ago.
It is nowhere near like that. This was a heat of the moment comment, had little bearing on the whole matter, and why RW people cling to it is a mystery. What difference does it make?
RW folks take odd comments and blow them out of proportion or twist the meaning around to make it fit with a persecution complex. Quite odd.
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etc from both sides seem to be all hot air as of today with NO real,meaty evidence has been put forth as of yet that solidly lays blame or proves any collusion on anyone for any thing.
